Judging Discussion Thread [before: Judges' behavior at WCA competitions]

The bad experience, was him picking it up to take to Dene to scramble, and me calling him back, saying "check the other side" :P. It wasn't solved.

Hey shut up, I didn't know anything about clock xD. I thought 1 side solved = both sides solved lol.

The only thing I don't like, is when I get bumped during a solve. The rest I couldn't care about to be honest.
 
I hate it when competitors bumps into me while I'm judging :(

Seriously, it should be some rule about distance, we often sqeese in to many tables to be able to compleate the round quicker, to be able to have more events. If the venue is small we really should cut down on events rater than destroy many of the solves for the competitors.

If you look at my competiton results, all that are much worse than the normal times I get are mostly because of distractions and there are quite a few of them.

I usally cube when alone and are not used to people talking around me, staring at my actions, bumping into me or the worst, my noob judge was explaning how to judge to another noob judge while I was doing 4x4x4 and they where both leaning against the other side of the table I was solving on = 30 cm from my hands. When she did not know exactly what to say she asked me about the rules, this during the whole solve, still I just lost about 10 seconds :P

Yes, I also made errors while judging, it is not that easy to do it all correct all the time and this is of course much harder for a new judge. Mabye we should make it a habit to practice judging at some side table? Let people try it out before they go to the real podium and when doing it have someone experienced there to judge the judges.
 
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My worst experience was a really annoying judge who asked me again and again if I'm ready although I told him "No, wait" after his first and second question... and after complaining about this behavior he just told me: "Well, that's the rules, you should read it!".
 
Every judge guide should include a reference to this thread so they know that if they're bad, they'll be talked about. Or we create a "Judges Hall of Shame" for the purpose. Or we just tell them that there is such a thing.
 
Every judge guide should include a reference to this thread so they know that if they're bad, they'll be talked about. Or we create a "Judges Hall of Shame" for the purpose. Or we just tell them that there is such a thing.

If there is going to be a hall of shame for judges, we should base it on a score system. We can split the judge's behavior during solves into a few categories.

General Solving
1) Body odor (10 for smelling like garbage)
2) If the competitor is sitting, how close is the judges "privates" to the competitor's face? (10 for touching)
3) Cubing during a solve (10 for the judge popping the cube into the comptitor's face and cube)
4) Camera angles (10 for standing in front of the competitor and timer display during a solve)
5) Timing (the higher the point, the more off the judge is when calling out "8 seconds" and etc
6) Talking during a solve (10 for yelling into competitor's face during a solve)

One Hand Solving (in addition to general solving)
1) During a solve, the judge holds the other hand of the competitor (automatic 10 points)

Blindfold Solving
1) The judge touches the face of the competitor with hands while blindfolded (auto 10 points)
2) Judge kisses the competitor while blindfolded (10 points for every second the kiss lasts)
3) The judge resets the stopwatch by accident (auto 25 points)

Of course, the judge of the judge needs the judge's initials to judge the judge's judging ability.

Edit1: added more blindfold stuff
 
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One Hand Solving (in addition to general solving)
1) During a solve, the judge holds the other hand of the competitor (automatic 10 points)

Lol... that would be so sweet.

I can actually imagine doing this. Not the actual hall of shame (too much work, too mean, and might keep people from volunteering), but first telling them that it exists and then something like Andrew just wrote. And then tell them that while the hall is a joke and doesn't really exist (OR DOES IT?), to please keep these things in mind and try to not be distracting. Talking about extremes like popping cubes into the competitor's face might make them remember better. I often successfully use extremes for something else, when I want someone to estimate something and they first say "oh I don't know", then I ask "well more like 2 or more like 600?" and suddenly they're like "no, no, maybe 30". Extremes kinda wake people up.
 
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@Andrew: Point system is hilarious!

One Hand Solving (in addition to general solving)
1) During a solve, the judge holds the other hand of the competitor (automatic 10 points)

I LOL'd so hard haha.

I like it when the competitor goes to itch their nose or something and ends up knocking the cardboard into themselves.

I have to confess that I've done that more than once ;) Basically my thought process is: "My nose itches.... I should scratch it" Brings hand up and knocks paper/cardboard into face. "Oh right... that." :p

Chris
 
Blindfold Solving
1) The judge touches the face of the competitor with hands while blindfolded (auto 10 points)

Some blind solvers also bends forward with the head so it comes to stay about 10 cm from the cube, if they move it happens that the paper makes contact with the face or hands.

I have as everybody else also made mistakes while judging. I actually ones stopped a solve by mistake. The reason was that a girl, who was competing for the first time and evidently didn't know the rules to well, got me totally confused. I asked her if she was ready for inspection and she said yes. I lifted the cube cover and started the stop watch. She then started the timer immediately and with the timer running she carefully inspected the cube without turning anything. This made me believe she misunderstood how the inspection was timed and that she believed that she was supposed to time it with the stack mat timer. I really didn't know what to do so of some reason i stopped her and told her she could quickly restart the timer and start solving sins 15 seconds hadn't elapsed. But she just got irritated and told me she didn't want inspection time and this was the reason for her stating the timer before inspecting the cube. I rely don't believe this, but we decided to give her a new scramble sins it was a judging error
 
LOL! This thread has ma rolling! Unless nipples are naughty...depends on if he enjoyed it or not! Haha!

Chris: Do you by chance have a video of you knocking the cardboard into your face? As soon as Bryan said that I'd laughed so hard, and wanted a video!
 
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