Age vs Speed

[Rune]

I can´t find that these highly interesting curves have been discussed anywhere. Have I missed something?
http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/misc/age_vs_speed.html
(The right end of 3x3x3 isn´t quite correct).

 

[Mike Hughey]

Hey, those are nice! It's kind of fun that I have my own personal spots on most of those graphs (maybe all but 3x3x3??), right around the 47 to 49 age range.

 

[Stefan]

You haven't missed a discussion, I added those only recently and wanted to optimize/automate updating before mentioning them here. What's wrong with the right end of 3x3x3?

 

[Rune]

You haven't missed a discussion, I added those only recently and wanted to optimize/automate updating before mentioning them here. What's wrong with the right end of 3x3x3?

It ends at age 80.

 

[Kenneth]

Mike, I'm pretty sure I got 2x2 and Master, but the rest is you, Ton, Lars or Guus I guess.

Checked it, you have a better single than I in 2x2 but my average is better than yours. I'm better in Master and weird, we got the same marks for both single and average in Magic

Edit, I can and will get you in Pyra, my competition times is not near what I usally gets at home.

 

[Stefan]

It ends at age 80.

Not really. It ends at... about 49.56 seconds. I didn't cut off the age axis, but I did cut off the result axis. The remaining records are simply way above the chart, you can see the curves leave through the top. If I scaled it so that even Yongchao Wang's 6:52.57 would fit into it, then the whole curve would be very flat and that would not be good. So I scaled it so that the upper limit is seven times the best result. Why factor 7? Well, because that's the smallest integer where I can still see your records.

 

[StachuK1992]

What?
I thought Feliks was at least 15 or 16.

Gah!

 

[Rune]

Not really. It ends at... about 49.56 seconds. I didn't cut off the age axis, but I did cut off the result axis. The remaining records are simply way above the chart, you can see the curves leave through the top. If I scaled it so that even Yongchao Wang's 6:52.57 would fit into it, then the whole curve would be very flat and that would not be good. So I scaled it so that the upper limit is seven times the best result. Why factor 7? Well, because that's the smallest integer where I can still see your records.

Yes, yes. I saw it to late for editing my post. You are too considerate, Stefan!

 

[Stefan]

You are too considerate, Stefan!

No, you're too fast

With your times around 40 seconds, there's no reason to not have you in there. I'd also like to include the even older guys, but sadly they're just too damn slow.

 

[Pyjam]

On the stats page, it would be interesting to see the number of speedcubers per age or per slice of ages. For a good reason, birthdates aren’t in the files available for download.

 

[Kenneth]

Not all birthdates are in the base either, aspecially for those who have not been to a comp in some years, before the auto registration at WCA you had to send a mail to the organiser and it was not standard procedure to ask for your age.

 

[Rinfiyks]

It looks like younger people are faster, but there are just more of them.
What I would like to see is the average average of all the ages (i.e., take all averages from an age group and average them, for all age groups).

 

[Dene]

So really what it tells is is that really old people and really young people are slow.

 

[Lucas Garron]

So really what it tells is is that really old people and really young people are slow.

Not entirely:


And apart from that, it's probably still not easy to prove it has to do with pure age; social factors are pretty important.

 

[Pyjam]

Thank you Lucas.

 

[Dene]

Yes well of course there is that. Still no proof otherwise though.

 

[Rune]

I would say, the really old (of to-day) MUST be (relatively) slow. He was 50 or more, when the cube appeared. At that age you can´t make your technique perfect. Let us see after 30 years or so...

 

[ElectricDoodie]

Speed VS Age?

Do you think there's a relation to how fast someone can become, depending on how old they are?

I mean, it seems like most people who are sub15 usually fall under their 20s, with a few exceptions. But I mean, most people who are fast, and are in the top 100 AVG and Single, are usually under 20.

I'm just wondering if there's a reason for this. Maybe because they have more free-time to practice? Maybe because there are more teens interested in speedcubing than adults?

Or is it something that has more to do with their capabilities? Are teens and younger more capable to become extremely fast? As people become older, do they lose the possibility of becoming sub10? Can adults just not learn and use the practice as well as a teen? Is there something inherently holding them back from being sub10?

I'm just wondering if there's a relation of the amount of people in the top 100 being teens.

In the end, should someone who is 30 years-old give up their dream of becoming sub10, one day?

P.S. Not talking about myself. I'm not 30.

 

[flan]

There are graphs for this on the wca site somewhere

 

[Diniz]

Adults just have a lot of thing to worry about.. work, wife, kids its really hard to practice properly in this conditions... And another motive is probably the lose of interest in those things when you are an adult..