I don't get roman rooms

Each sticker is assigned to one letter. A letter pair, say, CK, can be assigned to an object, let's say cookie. Then "cookie" is one item. You walk into a room, and you see a cookie lying on your bed, or something like that. 10 items to room means you can have 10 objects made from letter pairs put around your room. So when you're solving, you think of a cookie. And you can remember that cookie is CK, and you'll shoot to the sticker that denotes C, and then K. Get it?
 
I saw a form and it said to list 10 items in a room. How can you apply it to a cube

I'll try to explain it also...

Cube has 12 edges and 8 corners. Edges have 2x12=24 stickers, corners have 3x8=24 stickers.

To mark correct position and orientation of edges you need 24 letters, the same with the corners - 24 letters. How you position letters is up to you and there is almost no wrong way to do it as long as you can identify which letter means which position.

To memorise a cube you need to remember a sequence of letters in two strings - edges and corners. If you want (quicker) easy way then you have to remember twisted pieces also, but you can do it the cowboy way - start a new cycle for every twisted piece.

If you can generate that sequence of letters by looking at the cube then you pair them up and come up with the word/person/item that relates for you with those two letters.
(make up a word on the fly during memorization or take the words from your prepared list).

Depending on the scramble and the way you handle it you can have around 10-13-15 letters for edges and another 5-6-9 for corners. Maybe more, maybe less depending on luck also. ;)
Let's say you happen to have 12 letters for edges and 8 for the corners. Instead of 12+8 letters you remember 6+4 items/persons/countries whatever works for you.

It's not enough just to remember a pile of random things - you must remember them in certain order to come back to the same string of letters which brings you back to sticker positions and helps you to solve the cube blindfolded.

To remember in order you prepare a room in your mind (or a journey or a building) that has a certain order of locations. You may invent the castle, cave, labyrinth or use any rooms/routes you are familiar with. Just with enough locations (slots) to place the items into.

Several examples have been given. What do you have in your living room? Sofa, coffee table, tv, ceiling lamp, flower pot, pool table, carpet? See, you have locations for 7 items, representing 14 letters. That should be enough for edges. Put the corners in bedroom, office or school gym. If you don't have pool table in your living room, take a different thing you have, buy a pool table or imagine one.

Just decide what to use and start training. Take a 10 page book "3 pigs" from your younger sister or son and place the items on those pages. You must learn the locations by heart anyway - room, route, book, song, whatever you decide to use.


Peedu
 
Try not to use those in your images list. Instead of lounge, try Lego. Or if you really have to, try to make crazy stuff happen to your images so that they will be easier to distinguish, like a jumping sofa or a polka dot television won from a lucky draw. Or as Chester Lian suggests, use Pokemon.
 
Rock, do you even understand how the execution part of bld solving works? I get the feeling you don't yet know about cycles and all that stuff, which you need to know before you think about memorising.
 
Why "almost"? Is there a way you'd consider wrong? (not nitpicking, just curious)

Your question is appropriate and I thought about that also when I wrote "almost". I must admit that there are just easy/fast ways and the cowboy/slow/hard ways. So, the wrong way considering the speed of solving would be choosing the hard path, but speed is not always the criteria.

You are certainly aware of the ways to avoid certain letter to appear on your list by choosing a different lettering scheme - replace a letter. There are also many combinations of letter-pairs that can be avoided if you try to see it beforehand and place the letters differently on different faces. Also, some people tend to look (in their mind) through the cube and again you might change your lettering scenario accordingly.

Last, but not the least, the wrong way would be A-FU, B-LD, C-BR. (Actually, if I look at what I just wrote that could be pretty logical system if you continue with that (placing letters just randomly all over the cube if you are able to recall what each letter means)).

Definitely the wrong way would be using letters from the alfabet you are not familiar with - eg. for you, Stefan, I would not suggest using Armenian mixed with ancient Egypt letters. Well for some people ancient Egypt might be the right thing, but it might be hard to come up with word-image representatives for those letters.



Peedu

PS: If Stefan now tells us that Armenian is his favourite language, he knows the alfabet anyway and he has been interested in ancient Egypt since he was 5, used the Egypt letters to exchange secret messages with friend(s) then I gave away good hint about improving memorization for free. :)
 
Ah, yeah. I agree it affects the quality. I recently tried it and got confused that my letter L target was on the L layer but my letter R target wasn't on the R layer. I didn't like that and changed my scheme to make it symmetric and have the L/R/F/B/U/D targets be related to their corresponding layers. I think that was better, although for some targets I still had the original letters strongly associated and confused the new ones with them. Gah.

And no, I don't know Armenian or Egyptian :D
 
Is your list currently online?

No, I'm afraid I don't currently even have a typed-up list. (It's just in my head.) I have the original list I made a couple of years ago, but I've changed a bunch of items since then.

Maybe I can try to find the time to update it someday soon, but probably not until after the Dayton Open.

I do think a collective list might be helpful. With a good enough list like that, someone could probably create a list they're happy with in a day or two, instead of the month it took me.
 
I need to update my list as well, I change my images when I realize that I have recall errors on the same ones. Looking through my image lists there are a number of them that I have changed. I'll try to work on updating it in the next week or so.

As for VR, it's a very memorable image for me. I've only had a long recall delay on it once in a few years. I pretty much picture this:
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Hope this helps.

Also, as to the debate about certain lettering scheme being better than others. I've made really significant changes to my lettering scheme twice now, one of which I am still in the process of making complete. I am finding that, for me, my brain seems to subconsciously want letters to be in certain areas. I keep mixing up letters when I memorize, and rather than try to fight through this I simply change my scheme to what my brain seems to want anyway. I first re-lettered my B and D faces a couple years ago, and then things went fine for a long time. Recently I've been having some memorization issues with the R face as well as my inner r layer on big cubes, with my brain subconsciously preferring a scheme different from the one I had. Rather than fight it, I'm now in the process of unlearning my old lettering and switching to the new one. I'm already finding that memorizing with the new scheme feels more natural, I don't know of any other way to describe it. It's a sort of contentment, as if my subconscious is saying "finally you're doing it right!" :)

Chris
 
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The image I'm replacing is "Virtual Reality", and I envision the headset part - a headset I wore in a gaming place once. But it just doesn't work very well for me - I stumble over it far too often. I'm hoping VelociRaptor will go better - I suspect it will for me.

This just goes to show that it really is important for everyone to come up with a list that works well for them personally. Images that work well for Chris often don't work at all for me, and probably vice-versa. I know I also have several images that are the same as Chris's, but mine are for a different set of letters. For instance, Chris lists AO as "aerosol" on his site, but I have AE as "aerosol". Or Chris has gold as GO, and I have gold as AU. :)
 
This just goes to show that it really is important for everyone to come up with a list that works well for them personally. Images that work well for Chris often don't work at all for me, and probably vice-versa. I know I also have several images that are the same as Chris's, but mine are for a different set of letters. For instance, Chris lists AO as "aerosol" on his site, but I have AE as "aerosol". Or Chris has gold as GO, and I have gold as AU. :)

GO is Gorbatshev :)

Looking at list of someone else can give some ideas, but finally you have your own personal list anyway. Maybe only in your head and not 100% completed, but you tend to use the same word for a letter combination anyway.

Peedu
 
First question:

Let's just say one of my rooms is my bedroom. In my memo some letter pairs like X,V J,G V,X G,J and lots others are very hard. thinking one up on the spot in your room is very time consuming and memo times will be alot longer. Also if I have learnt every letter conbination, one picture may not associate with my paticular room at all, but if I did every letter combination with one room. Thats very hard cause if some one has over 20 prepared rooms and they lernt every letter conbination with each room. Thats alot of conbinations.

Second question: What if you get one item mixed up eg. you accidentially swap a coke can with a drum stick and you've ruined your solve
 
Is your list currently online?
I'd love to start a collective listing of what people use for 2-letter words.

I know Chris' is available (I'm not sure how up-to-date that may be), so I could start the list off with that.

Once I get some free time (in a week or so probably), I will make lists for everything. I'll make a list of my image pairs, my word pairs, my algs for corners, edges, wings, and probably some of the 4-letter images/words I have (but never seem to get).

Mike Hughey said:
Or Chris has gold as GO, and I have gold as AU
I use some elements/chemicals for letters, like CO is carbon monoxide (chocking on a gas), or lead (PB, usually as an adjective). Adjectives and adverbs are really useful words for compacting memo :)
 
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First question:

Let's just say one of my rooms is my bedroom. In my memo some letter pairs like X,V J,G V,X G,J and lots others are very hard. thinking one up on the spot in your room is very time consuming and memo times will be alot longer. Also if I have learnt every letter conbination, one picture may not associate with my paticular room at all, but if I did every letter combination with one room. Thats very hard cause if some one has over 20 prepared rooms and they lernt every letter conbination with each room. Thats alot of conbinations.

Second question: What if you get one item mixed up eg. you accidentially swap a coke can with a drum stick and you've ruined your solve

First answer: You don't learn a letter combination per room, just learn one set and use it for any room (sometimes you have to be a bit creative for this to work)

Second answer: Then your solve is ruined...
 
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