Do you use F and B when doing F2l?

[Stefan]

No. I use small D, though.

Also known as d.

 

[oprah62]

I use B moves for two f2l cases, they are algs, but I rotate so it flows nicely. I also have 2 f2l cases in a certain angle where I use a F move, but it flows. Other then that, only for partial alg control.

 

[nmvdeco]

Now that I think about it, I've never used F and B for F2L, like if I need to do (F' U F), I do (y' R' U R). It's faster for me

 

[ThumbsxUpx]

I rarely use B, but I use F quite a lot.

 

[BigSams]

i like using small letter d and d' instead.

 

[Daniel Wu]

Never. All Rs and Us with rotations. I use D sometimes too.

 

[Cubenovice]

ZZ

Agree that you would (typically) not use them in ZZ but how do you do EO without B and/or F?

Additionally there are F of B algs that preserve EO...

I use one that Cride5 showed me for "cornes solved case": F' R U R' U' R' F R
Inserts the back edge in the front right slot.

 

[BigSams]

Never. All Rs and Us with rotations. I use D sometimes too.

no L..?

 

[a small kitten]

Agree that you would (typically) not use them in ZZ but how do you do EO without B and/or F?

Additionally there are F of B algs that preserve EO...

I use one that Cride5 showed me for "cornes solved case": F' R U R' U' R' F R
Inserts the back edge in the front right slot.

I do OH exclusively. Forgot to mention that. With one hand, you really can't do F or B so you do a y' rotation and it becomes R and L'. The "F' R U R' U' R' F R" is very nice but I don't find it comfortable for OH. EO in general is uncomfortable for ZZ. Once you get over that the slots/blocks are very nice. You can pretty much complete it with a high tps without pausing.

 

[nitrocan]

R U R2 F R F' R U' R' anyone?

or just R' F R F' for LL edge control maybe.

Edit: M U' R' F R U M'

 

[frogmanson]

Am I the only one who uses like ANY of Macky's advanced F2L? I know at least 50 F2L "Algs" that uses F and B that follow Macky's new page. (I average about 11 for 3x3, ~7.5 for F2L)

 

[splinteh]

I only use F. B takes too much effort. I would just do a cube rotation. It's just too awkward.

 

[liljthedude]

Use wide F turns.

BR-Fw R' Fw'
BL-Fw' L Fw

 

[XXGeneration]

Not really. I can't think of any times off the top of my head.

 

[IamWEB]

What I'm about to say is gonna blow your mind:

R' F R F'

R B' R' B

 

[Rpotts]

What I'm about to say is gonna blow your mind:

R' F R F'

R B' R' B

x R' U R U'

x' R U' R' U

I think I use RUL exclusively except for edge control, which as stated above I use rotations. Also, for the corner in, edge in flipped case, I do sledgehammer (still with a rotation) then (R U' R' U)2 U R U' R

 

[Andreaillest]

I use F sometimes, but it's awkward. So is B. I just rotate.

 

[KboyForeverB]

No i rotate, but I know some people who use double layer d turns

 

[Zane_C]

I use F and F', there's nothing wrong with F turns you just need to know how to do them. If I want to do a B or B' I perform an x' to convert them to a U or U'.

 

[dada222]

Just on very rare cases (maybe it's just one).