Girl throw puppies in a river and film herself

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Well, the logical argument is something like "Why are we so distressed that this girl is harming these dogs when we aren't disturbed at ourselves doing things like picking weeds and flowers which are also alive?"
 
^I've never known flowers to have emotions and anything of the sort. I've only known them to adapt to their environments over time to survive. You can interact with animals, plants... well some of them clamp on your finger but I don't think it's because they chose to...

/logical response?
 
IamWEB said:
^I've never known flowers to have emotions and anything of the sort. I've only known them to adapt to their environments over time to survive. You can interact with animals, plants... well some of them clamp on your finger but I don't think it's because they chose to...

/logical response?
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i dunno what the logical response is ):
 
IamWEB said:
^I've never known flowers to have emotions and anything of the sort. I've only known them to adapt to their environments over time to survive. You can interact with animals, plants... well some of them clamp on your finger but I don't think it's because they chose to...

/logical response?
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Logical response: From what we currently know flowers and plants don't have emotions and/or feelings.

But for all we know, and no one can ever rule this out, we could find out that somehow they also have what we define as 'feelings' but they are based/created somewhere or somehow that we never thought of.

We THINK carrots don't have feelings, but if we find out in 1000 years they actually do, how will we feel for peeling their skin off, boiling them alive in water, cutting their heads off and eating them.

Not to good I assume.

~Chris
 
ChrisBird said:
We THINK carrots don't have feelings, but if we find out in 1000 years they actually do, how will we feel for peeling their skin off, boiling them alive in water, cutting their heads off and eating them.
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You mean after we remove the carrot from the plant? At that point it's been dead for a while. If someone told me that hours or days after someone lost a hand the hand itself could still feel pain and have feelings, I'd be more suspicious of their measuring methods than of how we treat an amputated limb.
 
qqwref said:
ChrisBird said:
We THINK carrots don't have feelings, but if we find out in 1000 years they actually do, how will we feel for peeling their skin off, boiling them alive in water, cutting their heads off and eating them.
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You mean after we remove the carrot from the plant? At that point it's been dead for a while. If someone told me that hours or days after someone lost a hand the hand itself could still feel pain and have feelings, I'd be more suspicious of their measuring methods than of how we treat an amputated limb.
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You know what I meant =p
 
I'm sure if we knew that plants and fruits, etc, had a life to live, had feelings, and emotions, SOME OF US wouldn't do such things. But since we don't know currently, nothing major is preventing us from using these resources.
I don't want to start a debate at all with anyone, but this is extremely cruel, and painful to watch. Having just lost my own cat in the recent past, this makes it even worse.
 
This girl really scares me. I really hope she's caught.

Sort of off-topic: I also find this incredibly disappointing. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad this has gotten so much attention, but recently there was also a video with a man disrobing women in public that did not get nearly this much attention...it really is sad how people seem to care more about puppies than people...
 
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Whyusosrs? said:
Really don't want to go onto /b/ just to see this.
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IMO this isnt about whether the killing of animals is wrong. Its more about the fact that she killed a poor defenseless animal(s) for absolutely no reason, and had fun while doing it.
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How do you know? There are many reasons to kill puppies, I haven't read much about the video but I heard that her brother (the one who's filming) said they were sick.

And she had fun while doing so, so? Are there not any other news for the papers to write about...
 
Vegetables don't have nervous systems so they won't be feeling any pain of any kind. I guess it boils down to if the target has a way of feeling pain in the process of being killed. So at this point, I'd like to ask if it's ok if someone killed a person who has a nervous system disorder that makes him unable to feel any pain at all.
 
Tortin said:
This girl really scares me. I really hope she's caught.

Sort of off-topic: I also find this incredibly disappointing. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad this has gotten so much attention, but recently there was also a video with a man disrobing women in public that did not get nearly this much attention...it really is sad how people seem to care more about puppies than people...
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There is a HUGE difference between pulling someone's clothes off and drowning puppies, can you not see the difference?
 
This is messed up, I've seen the article on it and Phillip DeFranco talking about it too. It's messed up but they're probably just putting puppies down without losing money, either that or this girl's mind is just messed up. The cameraman too.
 
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