Not really visual memroy, but not really just memo'ing numbers..

[Lotsofsloths]

When I memo my corners I don't remember numbers or letters are even visually memo them.
I just remember how(I guess which finger???) I tapped each piece.
Its kind iof weird, but its fast!
Anyone else do this?

 

[DennisStrehlau]

No!
i memorize everything just with images

Greetings...Dennis

 

[alexc]

That is visual. You kinda see the path of the cubies. I do that for CP, although once I switch to a method with no CO I will use images.

 

[malcolm]

Yeah i memo sort of like this, just move my fingers over the path to help me memo. Gets me times between 30s-1m

 

[jeff081692]

Thats what I do for EP but I am still trying out different memo methods so that could change.

 

[ThePizzaGuy92]

That is visual. You kinda see the path of the cubies. I do that for CP, although once I switch to a method with no CO I will use images.

I use pochmann [no CO] and visually memorizing corners is really easy, I found images a little difficult considering the three different possible orientations of each cubie.

 

[alexc]

That is visual. You kinda see the path of the cubies. I do that for CP, although once I switch to a method with no CO I will use images.

I use pochmann [no CO] and visually memorizing corners is really easy, I found images a little difficult considering the three different possible orientations of each cubie.

What do you mean the three orientations? You have a different image for each orientation. i.e.-UFL-dog FUL-cake LUF-rubik's cube

 

[ThePizzaGuy92]

That is visual. You kinda see the path of the cubies. I do that for CP, although once I switch to a method with no CO I will use images.

I use pochmann [no CO] and visually memorizing corners is really easy, I found images a little difficult considering the three different possible orientations of each cubie.

What do you mean the three orientations? You have a different image for each orientation. i.e.-UFL-dog FUL-cake LUF-rubik's cube

yes but that translates to alot of work for me :]

 

[Speedy McFastfast]

PG, you simply visually memorize where the corners are at? I've been experimenting with BLD, and I found that I can memorize the orientation of the corners visually, and then use a cycle of numbers 1-8 to permute them. I guess I'm not very fast though, but I did manage to BLD the corners of my cube in 1:51 last night

 

[Kristoffer]

That is visual. You kinda see the path of the cubies. I do that for CP, although once I switch to a method with no CO I will use images.

I use pochmann [no CO] and visually memorizing corners is really easy, I found images a little difficult considering the three different possible orientations of each cubie.

I use the pochmann method but I do CO tho. Then I don't need to think about those orientations and I can memorize and execute them faster

 

[Lotsofsloths]

How would you solve corners without orientation!?
That would be crazy setup moves!!!!!!!

 

[Harris Chan]

Not really, at most 3 moves, usually 1-2 with Pochman. Remember he's talking about just doing 2 cycle for corners, not 3 cycle.

 

[ThePizzaGuy92]

PG, you simply visually memorize where the corners are at? I've been experimenting with BLD, and I found that I can memorize the orientation of the corners visually, and then use a cycle of numbers 1-8 to permute them. I guess I'm not very fast though, but I did manage to BLD the corners of my cube in 1:51 last night

yeah I use entire visual on my corners, just a last second scan before blinding myself, then execute before I loose the mental picture.
Not that impressive considering Rowe memo's the whole cube visually, I think Lucas does too. I plan on making the switch to full visual, but I tried once and it was a terrible failure. :]

I use the pochmann method but I do CO tho. Then I don't need to think about those orientations and I can memorize and execute them faster

I used to do that, but I found the full Pochmann corner system much quicker and easier, especially with visual memo because I only feel like I'm memorizing ONE thing [edges] for the entire BLD solve. no EO, no CP, no CO.

How would you solve corners without orientation!?
That would be crazy setup moves!!!!!!!

since I use pochmann, one corner is done at a time. it takes a maximum of 3 moves to get any corner into any orientation in the buffer zone [RDF] to do the Y-perm [without the first F and last F']. Also, you can often avoid difficult setup moves by instead setting up for a J-perm.

 

[Blue Transaparent]

Out of gas....

I started BLD a week ago and tried my hand at 3-cycle from Macky's site, i was able to do the EO then CO then CP but after that i usually ran out of gas, i guess its the memo thats killing me. specially EP memo...

what do you guys recommend for cubers with a not so great or limited memo recall? does Pochmann method requires less stuff to memorize?

HELP :confused:

I've read about POA and journey method for memorizing? dont quite understand how it works?

 

[AvGalen]

Methods that don't use seperate orientation steps require less memo.
Memo takes practice. (1 cube is hard at first, now 3 cubes is doable)
Practice can be helped by memo-techniques which you can search for on this forum.

 

[Lucas Garron]

Methods that don't use seperate orientation steps require less memo..

Can people stop writing this?

Every memo method for a puzzle encodes exacly the same amount of information in your brain. I could come up with a conversion scheme for 3OP into a 20-digt number and claim that I'm only remembering one number. (Don't tell me it's 20 digits, or else I'll do it in base 36 (numbers + letters).)

 

[AvGalen]

Worst case with no orientation: 12 edges + 8 corners = 20 pieces of information
Worst case with orientation: 12 edge permutations + 8 corner permutations + 6 edge orientations (if there are > 6 unoriented just remember the oriented ones) + 8 corner orientations

You store the same information in your brain, but not in the same amount of storage.

 

[LarsN]

Oddly, I find it easiest to remember CO and CP, than just corner stickers. I have used both methods so it's not a matter of habit.

 

[ThePizzaGuy92]

Every memo method for a puzzle encodes exacly the same amount of information in your brain. I could come up with a conversion scheme for 3OP into a 20-digt number and claim that I'm only remembering one number. (Don't tell me it's 20 digits, or else I'll do it in base 36 (numbers + letters).)

Sorry, but your mistaken. Pochmann's system has two things to memorize [EP & CP], whereas the 3-cycle system has 4 things to memorize [EP, EO, CP, & CO]

EDIT- I didn't realize Avgalen already said this

 

[Pedro]

Oddly, I find it easiest to remember CO and CP, than just corner stickers. I have used both methods so it's not a matter of habit.

me too...I didn't do just stickers a lot, but...