Not really visual memroy, but not really just memo'ing numbers..

Yeah i memo sort of like this, just move my fingers over the path to help me memo. Gets me times between 30s-1m
 
That is visual. You kinda see the path of the cubies. I do that for CP, although once I switch to a method with no CO I will use images.

I use pochmann [no CO] and visually memorizing corners is really easy, I found images a little difficult considering the three different possible orientations of each cubie.
 
That is visual. You kinda see the path of the cubies. I do that for CP, although once I switch to a method with no CO I will use images.

I use pochmann [no CO] and visually memorizing corners is really easy, I found images a little difficult considering the three different possible orientations of each cubie.

What do you mean the three orientations? You have a different image for each orientation. i.e.-UFL-dog FUL-cake LUF-rubik's cube ;)
 
That is visual. You kinda see the path of the cubies. I do that for CP, although once I switch to a method with no CO I will use images.

I use pochmann [no CO] and visually memorizing corners is really easy, I found images a little difficult considering the three different possible orientations of each cubie.

What do you mean the three orientations? You have a different image for each orientation. i.e.-UFL-dog FUL-cake LUF-rubik's cube ;)

yes but that translates to alot of work for me :]
 
PG, you simply visually memorize where the corners are at? I've been experimenting with BLD, and I found that I can memorize the orientation of the corners visually, and then use a cycle of numbers 1-8 to permute them. I guess I'm not very fast though, but I did manage to BLD the corners of my cube in 1:51 last night :)
 
That is visual. You kinda see the path of the cubies. I do that for CP, although once I switch to a method with no CO I will use images.

I use pochmann [no CO] and visually memorizing corners is really easy, I found images a little difficult considering the three different possible orientations of each cubie.

I use the pochmann method but I do CO tho. Then I don't need to think about those orientations and I can memorize and execute them faster:)
 
PG, you simply visually memorize where the corners are at? I've been experimenting with BLD, and I found that I can memorize the orientation of the corners visually, and then use a cycle of numbers 1-8 to permute them. I guess I'm not very fast though, but I did manage to BLD the corners of my cube in 1:51 last night :)

yeah I use entire visual on my corners, just a last second scan before blinding myself, then execute before I loose the mental picture.
Not that impressive considering Rowe memo's the whole cube visually, I think Lucas does too. I plan on making the switch to full visual, but I tried once and it was a terrible failure. :]

I use the pochmann method but I do CO tho. Then I don't need to think about those orientations and I can memorize and execute them faster:)

I used to do that, but I found the full Pochmann corner system much quicker and easier, especially with visual memo because I only feel like I'm memorizing ONE thing [edges] for the entire BLD solve. no EO, no CP, no CO.

How would you solve corners without orientation!?
That would be crazy setup moves!!!!!!!

since I use pochmann, one corner is done at a time. it takes a maximum of 3 moves to get any corner into any orientation in the buffer zone [RDF] to do the Y-perm [without the first F and last F']. Also, you can often avoid difficult setup moves by instead setting up for a J-perm.
 
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Out of gas....

I started BLD a week ago and tried my hand at 3-cycle from Macky's site, i was able to do the EO then CO then CP but after that i usually ran out of gas, i guess its the memo thats killing me. specially EP memo...

what do you guys recommend for cubers with a not so great or limited memo recall? does Pochmann method requires less stuff to memorize?

HELP :confused:

I've read about POA and journey method for memorizing? dont quite understand how it works?
 
Methods that don't use seperate orientation steps require less memo..
Can people stop writing this?

Every memo method for a puzzle encodes exacly the same amount of information in your brain. I could come up with a conversion scheme for 3OP into a 20-digt number and claim that I'm only remembering one number. (Don't tell me it's 20 digits, or else I'll do it in base 36 (numbers + letters).) :p
 
Worst case with no orientation: 12 edges + 8 corners = 20 pieces of information
Worst case with orientation: 12 edge permutations + 8 corner permutations + 6 edge orientations (if there are > 6 unoriented just remember the oriented ones) + 8 corner orientations

You store the same information in your brain, but not in the same amount of storage.
 
Every memo method for a puzzle encodes exacly the same amount of information in your brain. I could come up with a conversion scheme for 3OP into a 20-digt number and claim that I'm only remembering one number. (Don't tell me it's 20 digits, or else I'll do it in base 36 (numbers + letters).) :p

Sorry, but your mistaken. Pochmann's system has two things to memorize [EP & CP], whereas the 3-cycle system has 4 things to memorize [EP, EO, CP, & CO]

EDIT- I didn't realize Avgalen already said this :D
 
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