CLL vs EG1

[Sharkretriver]

Zarxax: I suggest keeping with ortega till you're about 6s or so. Then learn CLL.

The way to be good at 2x2, is to be good with EVERY method.

Okay ill do that lol

 

[cincyaviation]

o.O only 12 new algs? I'm definitely learning CLL. But according to Limeback I have to learn them all at the same time or I'll forget/confuse my self, is this true?

Well, that's an exaggeration... At some point this week I'll write up a post about learning all of CLL quickly.

i'll be waiting, and waiting, and waiting......

 

[deadalnix]

Ok, didn't read the whole thread. But for me, it's pretty clear that CLL > EG1 . Of course, the best choice is CLL + EG.

The fact is that you can align your CLL the way you want. In EG-1, you have to put the down layer is the right position. This can lead to a regrip.

 

[Zarxrax]

I started learning CLL, and it's actually quite fun. Recognition seemed like a nightmare at first, but once I really figured it out, its a piece of cake. I learned all the H cases in one evening, and have started working on the Pi cases. I think I can finish this up within a month.
Anthony's site rocks. He lays it all out well, and chose the good algs

 

[Diniz]

Remember thats not that hard to sub4 with Ortega. So no need to switch right away to CLL, you still have a lot to improve.

 

[DavidWoner]

Agreed, sub3 with ortega is also possible.

 

[dunpeal2064]

Agreed, sub3 with ortega is also possible.

It seems like you'd have to be really good with ortega to sub3.. or even sub4.
However it doesnt seem like it'd be as hard to get to sub4 using CLL. I currently use ortega and can sub7, but it seems like CLL will progress faster after I learn the algs. Is this true?

 

[DavidWoner]

It's easier to improve with Ortega because you only have to be fast at performing like 15 algs, instead of 40.

 

[ben1996123]

o.O only 12 new algs? I'm definitely learning CLL. But according to Limeback I have to learn them all at the same time or I'll forget/confuse my self, is this true?

I learnt half of CLL at the beginning of December, and never bothered to learn the rest (yet), and I havent forgotten the algs or confuzzled myself...

 

[Kirjava]

o.O only 12 new algs? I'm definitely learning CLL. But according to Limeback I have to learn them all at the same time or I'll forget/confuse my self, is this true?

I learnt half of CLL at the beginning of December, and never bothered to learn the rest (yet), and I havent forgotten the algs or confuzzled myself...

Your sig is hilarious.

 

[Anthony]

Anthony's site rocks. He lays it all out well, and chose the good algs

I'm glad you like it.

 

[riffz]

Sub3 is easy with pretty much any method. CLL, Guimond, SS- all easy to sub3 with, even if you just know part of the methods. I got sub3 averages long before I finished CLL, and I still haven't finished SS.

A small note on PBL:
Ideally you should be consistently around 1-1.2 for Jperm and 2bar, 1.5 for the Yperms, and ~.8 or so for most of the 1bars. Being consistent is extremely important.

You're forgetting sub 0.4 for the R2 F2/B2 R2 case

 

[DavidWoner]

.4 is pretty slow for that.

 

[riffz]

.4 is pretty slow for that.

Well yes, but I wouldn't say I could do it sub .3 consistently in the middle of a solve. Maybe on a stackmat. What do you average on that alg?

EDIT: I average about 0.25 now that I've timed it.

 

[DavidWoner]

I refuse to time that alg. I know that when it's no AUF, I can finish it as my hands go to stop the timer.

 

[riffz]

I refuse to time that alg. I know that when it's no AUF, I can finish it as my hands go to stop the timer.

So you can time tenths of a second in your head? Not trying to be a dick but isn't it kind of presumptuous to make a statement like that even though you haven't timed it?

 

[Anthony]

So you can time tenths of a second in your head? Not trying to be a dick but isn't it kind of presumptuous to make a statement like that even though you haven't timed it?

Does it matter if he can do it in .2 or .4? Woner doesn't have to time it to know that's it's stupidly fast.

 

[riffz]

So you can time tenths of a second in your head? Not trying to be a dick but isn't it kind of presumptuous to make a statement like that even though you haven't timed it?

Does it matter if he can do it in .2 or .4? Woner doesn't have to time it to know that's it's stupidly fast.

Well no, it doesn't, but he's the one who said 0.4 is slow, not me.

 

[DavidWoner]

Well I have done 1bar at UB sub.5, and I know my nobar is way faster than that. But since you complained, I timed it once just now and got .25 first try.

 

[Zarxrax]

How the heck do you do it so fast? Is there a trick to it?
I tried timing myself, and got a 1.83 avg of 12.