Poll: Opinion on Health Care Reform

[Deleted member 2864]

the one who's fault it is should pay. and if they can't, sucks for them. don't drive.

You don't have to be driving to get into a car accident. You could be biking, or walking, or playing on a playstructure, or in bed sleeping.

yup. then its the drivers fault and he should pay.

very well. Let me give you all my main questions in one post so I don't waste your precious time.

1. How is being a careful driver going to keep you safe from a crash? It's not like everybody's healthy
--------1.5. How are you making posts stating you're a careful driver when you can't drive?
2. If you think taxpayers shouldn't be funding things like this and help shouldn't be given because "the world is cruel", then why are we funding schools, roads, parks, and memorials?
3. What is your definition of "Christianity"? It seems to go against Jesus' words of, "Love others as you love yourself."
4. Since you've been in a car crash, how would that keep you safe when you are driving later in your life?

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

utter ignorance? you mean common sence? and let me remind you that hitler started out by talking all sweet...and look what happened... of course, Obama's not violent, but he's misleading (in my eyes)

disagree with me if you want; its all cool

 

[Deleted member 2864]

utter ignorance? you mean common sence? and let me remind you that hitler started out by talking all sweet...and look what happened... of course, Obama's not violent, but he's misleading (in my eyes)

disagree with me if you want; its all cool

lol sence

I made my post with questions. Please answer them and not ignore them like you have to almost all of my posts.

 

[miniGOINGS]

utter ignorance? you mean common sence? and let me remind you that hitler started out by talking all sweet...and look what happened... of course, Obama's not violent, but he's misleading (in my eyes)

disagree with me if you want; its all cool

...are you comparing Obama to Hitler?

Oh and:

ig·no·rance   /ˈɪgnərəns/ [ig-ner-uhns]
–noun
the state or fact of being ignorant; lack of knowledge, learning, information, etc.

Do you actually understand the implications of this act?

 

[SlapShot]

im not sure. obama is forcing us to buy insurance and all that. i don't think anyone but political figures will have private doctors that are any good.

and im not against healthcare. im against healthcare REFORM. seriously, don't reform something that works pretty well!

The politicians get the best healthcare possible, while the peons get the dregs. I'm not surprised that some doctors plan on quiting.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

the one who's fault it is should pay. and if they can't, sucks for them. don't drive.

You don't have to be driving to get into a car accident. You could be biking, or walking, or playing on a playstructure, or in bed sleeping.

yup. then its the drivers fault and he should pay.

very well. Let me give you all my main questions in one post so I don't waste your precious time.

1. How is being a careful driver going to keep you safe from a crash? It's not like everybody's healthy
1.5. How are you making posts stating you're a careful driver when you can't drive?
2. If you think taxpayers shouldn't be funding things like this and help shouldn't be given because "the world is cruel", then why are we funding schools, roads, parks, and memorials?
3. What is your definition of "Christianity"? It seems to go against Jesus' words of, "Love others as you love yourself."
4. Since you've been in a car crash, how would that keep you safe when you are driving later in your life?

1-its not. but if you're careful and you are in a car crash, its not your fault.

1.5-i didn't state im a careful driver. i said i would drive carefully

2-tax payers should help pay for this, but not entirely...

3-christian=follower of christ. and "love your neighbour as myself?" so why not just give up all of your belongings and die a hobbo? there are limits. and love doesn't come from FORCING someone to do something. its the THOUGHT that coutns. FORCING someone to pay isn't love. if you would like to pay for someone's bill, great. but not FORCE someone to pay.


the thing about all of these people who voted for the bill is that the yare too generous with other people's money. they're multimillionaires! why don't they pay for this themselves? and obama's wife has 20 people taking care of her. is that normal? all of that money could go to resolve...dunno...help to the poor?

4-i just do.

 

[Edmund]

3-christian=follower of christ. and "love your neighbour as myself?" so why not just give up all of your belongings and die a hobbo? there are limits. and love doesn't come from FORCING someone to do something. its the THOUGHT that coutns. FORCING someone to pay isn't love. if you would like to pay for someone's bill, great. but not FORCE someone to pay.

My posts make it obvious that I'm against this health care reform but this stuff about Christianity I have to disagree with. I'll start with this: I am a Christian. Why not die a hobo? Because you don't want that to happen to others so if you love your neighbor as yourself, why would you want that to happen to you. You want the best for everyone, including yourself. In the Christian mind the ultimate goal is heaven so being a billionaire isn't necessarily what you should want for yourself either.

 

[miniGOINGS]

and obama's wife has 20 people taking care of her. is that normal?

No. But then again, only 46 people in the ENTIRE WORLD have been in her position. Ever.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

3-christian=follower of christ. and "love your neighbour as myself?" so why not just give up all of your belongings and die a hobbo? there are limits. and love doesn't come from FORCING someone to do something. its the THOUGHT that coutns. FORCING someone to pay isn't love. if you would like to pay for someone's bill, great. but not FORCE someone to pay.

My posts make it obvious that I'm against this health care reform but this stuff about Christianity I have to disagree with. I'll start with this: I am a Christian. Why not die a hobo? Because you don't want that to happen to others so if you love your neighbor as yourself, why would you want that to happen to you. You want the best for everyone, including yourself. In the Christian mind the ultimate goal is heaven so being a billionaire isn't necessarily what you should want for yourself either.

you just misunderstood it all :fp

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

and obama's wife has 20 people taking care of her. is that normal?

No. But then again, only 46 people in the ENTIRE WORLD have been in her position. Ever.

so? and we have to pay for that with taxes! and she didn't DO anything special..its all the fact she married obama.

 

[Escher]

i won't be in a car crash. i'm careful.

What if I blindside you?

so? if its your fault its your problem.

And what if it isn't your fault? Does that then make it everyone's problem?

Whose fault is it that 16% of Americans are below the poverty line? I'm willing to bet that a significant proportion of those didn't choose to be so poor.
If you think that it is their fault they're poor and they can help it, prove it to me.

people who work hard shouldn't pay for something that they aren't concerned in. honestly, that just takes incentive to work away from people.

You're 13, I doubt you've worked a day of your life.

As far as incentive to work, Sweden has roughly half the unemployment levels yet the mean tax rate is about 15% higher. Seem unusual?

and gay mariages too ? what's happening?!

Seeing as God made people gay (I lol at how some people still consider sexuality a 'lifestyle choice') I guess they should suffer for it and not be allowed to get married right? Right?

 

[Edmund]

3-christian=follower of christ. and "love your neighbour as myself?" so why not just give up all of your belongings and die a hobbo? there are limits. and love doesn't come from FORCING someone to do something. its the THOUGHT that coutns. FORCING someone to pay isn't love. if you would like to pay for someone's bill, great. but not FORCE someone to pay.

My posts make it obvious that I'm against this health care reform but this stuff about Christianity I have to disagree with. I'll start with this: I am a Christian. Why not die a hobo? Because you don't want that to happen to others so if you love your neighbor as yourself, why would you want that to happen to you. You want the best for everyone, including yourself. In the Christian mind the ultimate goal is heaven so being a billionaire isn't necessarily what you should want for yourself either.

you just misunderstood it all :fp

You make your posts very hard to understand, and that is not a complement about you using big words or anything.

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

i won't be in a car crash. i'm careful.

What if I blindside you?

so? if its your fault its your problem.

And what if it isn't your fault? Does that then make it everyone's problem?

Whose fault is it that 16% of Americans are below the poverty line? I'm willing to bet that a significant proportion of those didn't choose to be so poor.
If you think that it is their fault they're poor and they can help it, prove it to me.

people who work hard shouldn't pay for something that they aren't concerned in. honestly, that just takes incentive to work away from people.

You're 13, I doubt you've worked a day of your life.

As far as incentive to work, Sweden has roughly half the unemployment levels yet the mean tax rate is about 15% higher. Seem unusual?

and gay mariages too ? what's happening?!

Seeing as God made people gay (I lol at how some people still consider sexuality a 'lifestyle choice') I guess they should suffer for it and not be allowed to get married right? Right?

oh no. look at that last statement...god didn't make people gay. why can't gay people have babies? why didn't a single person in the bible be gay? hm??

only with all of this freedom and retarded concepts in everyone's head do they think gay is normal. it shouldn't be promoted.

work? yes, i have worked. and i know what its like

and what about poor people? get a job! the reason they don't want to is government provides them with stuff without work! they're poor because they're lazy!

of couse, they're are people who are poor and have conditions preventing them from working, but very few...only like 1%...

 

[Edmund]

Actually a lot of people in the Bible were gay but it was frowned upon. I do believe some people are born gay but I believe it's an obstacle God wants certain to overcome, I really believe that. Homosexuality would not have been so frowned upon in the Bible if God didn't want people to change. I've known some people who were homosexual and have changed through Christian Homosexual Rehab Centers. God gives us all our own different obstacles he wants us to hurdle.

This is getting pretty off-topic so can we at least try to keep this civilized. If it stays civilized and people don't make nonsensical statements galore it could be a very good debate. I just don't want the mods shutting it down for getting out of hand.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

You don't have to be driving to get into a car accident. You could be biking, or walking, or playing on a playstructure, or in bed sleeping.

yup. then its the drivers fault and he should pay.

This was more about the "I'll never get in a car crash, I'm careful!" mentality.

I'll never get cancer. I just know it! Why in the world should I be forced to pay for OTHER people with cancer.

 

[Daniel Wu]

I'm not sure how health care drifted into Christian stance on gay marriage but http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm
CCC 2357-2359

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

lol

 

[CuBeOrDiE]

You don't have to be driving to get into a car accident. You could be biking, or walking, or playing on a playstructure, or in bed sleeping.

yup. then its the drivers fault and he should pay.

This was more about the "I'll never get in a car crash, I'm careful!" mentality.

I'll never get cancer. I just know it! Why in the world should I be forced to pay for OTHER people with cancer.

you shouldn't.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

why can't gay people have babies?

gay != sterile

 

[Kirjava]

Actually a lot of people in the Bible were gay but it was frowned upon. I do believe some people are born gay but I believe it's an obstacle God wants certain to overcome, I really believe that. Homosexuality would not have been so frowned upon in the Bible if God didn't want people to change. I've known some people who were homosexual and have changed through Christian Homosexual Rehab Centers. God gives us all our own different obstacles he wants us to hurdle.

You are a fruitcake. Stop using your magic sky wizard to justify your homophobic propaganda.

and gay mariages too ? what's happening?!

Progress.

only with all of this freedom and retarded concepts in everyone's head do they think gay is normal. it shouldn't be promoted.

It's perfectly normal, it's not promoted anymore than being straight is (not that promotion is a problem).