Waffle's Roux Tutorial

[miniGOINGS]

the way that waffle explains it (1x1x2 block) feels awkward to do what other ways are there to do it?

I use MBR, 1x1x3 (2 corners 1 edge), and then 1x1x3 (2 edges 1 center). I've always done it like that, for both blocks.

 

[Googlrr]

the way that waffle explains it (1x1x2 block) feels awkward to do what other ways are there to do it?

It definitely feels weird at first. You pretty much just get used to it. MBR is very nice too, I used that for a good while to adapt to Roux. Now I just switch off between starting with a 2x2x1 and between 1x1x3 depending on what looks best. Just stick to it and you can get your blocks down to very few moves.

 

[kunz]

i tried them all
mine 5secs
mbr 7
waffles(?) 12
i have to get better better any way feels more comfortable then waffles and already almost as fast. but MBR is very similar to how i do it now.

 

[Googlrr]

i tried them all
mine 5secs
mbr 7
waffles(?) 12
i have to get better better any way feels more comfortable then waffles and already almost as fast. but MBR is very similar to how i do it now.

I still wouldn't recommend the placing 3 edges, then the 2 corners. That sounds a whole lot like LBL method with one less cross and 2 less corners.

 

[miniGOINGS]

i tried them all
mine 5secs
mbr 7
waffles(?) 12
i have to get better better any way feels more comfortable then waffles and already almost as fast. but MBR is very similar to how i do it now.

I MBR

It's actually really easy to go from LBL to MBR. Then later, once you feel comfortable you can move on to 1x2x2. I'll probably never get there though, I'm sticking with MBR.

 

[kunz]

i tried them all
mine 5secs
mbr 7
waffles(?) 12
i have to get better better any way feels more comfortable then waffles and already almost as fast. but MBR is very similar to how i do it now.

I MBR

It's actually really easy to go from LBL to MBR. Then later, once you feel comfortable you can move on to 1x2x2. I'll probably never get there though, I'm sticking with MBR.

im atributing my time to just having used it the moast im going to use the 1x1x3 block then extend for the first block now

 

[jms_gears1]

i tried them all
mine 5secs
mbr 7
waffles(?) 12
i have to get better better any way feels more comfortable then waffles and already almost as fast. but MBR is very similar to how i do it now.

Do you do L block on D at first then rotate for R block?
MBR is ok for some cases
Waffles is good for most.

Basically instead of thinking about it as a 1x2x2 block, break it down into pairs.

What i do is i generally find a C/E pair that i can make in at most 3 moves. Then i find the piece that matches with the center and the pair to form a 1x2x2 block.

then i create generally an F2L pair to insert into the 1x2x2 to make it a 1x2x3

 

[mr. giggums]

I'm used to making a 1x2x2 block as my main method is petrus one tip is to create the corner edge pair it could be anywhere then make the center edge pair make sure to not to break up the corner edge pair. After that all you have to do is connect them an easy way to do this is to put the corner edge pair one quarter turn away from the top layer with no pieces in the top layer and turn the top layer so it is right underneth the pair then turn the pair up to connect them and you have your 1x2x2 block.

 

[kunz]

i find it easier to make a 1x1x3 block then just add the corners and edge for the second block i make the 1x1x2 then just add the other two 1x1x2 blocks

 

[jms_gears1]

i find it easier to make a 1x1x3 block then just add the corners and edge for the second block i make the 1x1x2 then just add the other two 1x1x2 blocks

I would recommend practicing both, Dont do timed solves for a while.

Analyze each scramble and figure out which would take the least amount of moves for the case, wether it is 1x1x3 or 1x2x2.

as for SB you should work on making a 1x2x2 block, and then either pairing up a pair and inserting it. or if the corner is already inserted then do MSB, which mini can explain to you.

 

[kunz]

i find it easier to make a 1x1x3 block then just add the corners and edge for the second block i make the 1x1x2 then just add the other two 1x1x2 blocks

I would recommend practicing both, Dont do timed solves for a while.

Analyze each scramble and figure out which would take the least amount of moves for the case, wether it is 1x1x3 or 1x2x2.

as for SB you should work on making a 1x2x2 block, and then either pairing up a pair and inserting it. or if the corner is already inserted then do MSB, which mini can explain to you.

this is basically what i do...

 

[miniGOINGS]

as for SB you should work on making a 1x2x2 block, and then either pairing up a pair and inserting it. or if the corner is already inserted then do MSB, which mini can explain to you.

this is basically what i do...

Yea, for the second block, I took the alg R U' M' U R' and inversed it, mirrored it, expanded it and a whole bunch of other stuff, and I solve the SB edges (MBD) now freestyle. Pair up the corners to the DR edge, and then solve the other 2 freestyle.

 

[waffle=ijm]

People are silly :3

Spoiler

There's no proper way to build blocks...just wing it

 

[jms_gears1]

People are silly :3

Spoiler

There's no proper way to build blocks...just wing it

lol there are no proper ways per say, but there are techniques that we can discuss are there not?

 

[jms_gears1]

as for SB you should work on making a 1x2x2 block, and then either pairing up a pair and inserting it. or if the corner is already inserted then do MSB, which mini can explain to you.

this is basically what i do...

Yea, for the second block, I took the alg R U' M' U R' and inversed it, mirrored it, expanded it and a whole bunch of other stuff, and I solve the SB edges (MBD) now freestyle. Pair up the corners to the DR edge, and then solve the other 2 freestyle.

What do you mean freestyle?

 

[waffle=ijm]

when I made the tutorial, I was hoping that people would transition to a one-look block that you can just do without having to create more problems with random techniques.

EDIT - now I feel like remaking them...

 

[miniGOINGS]

What do you mean freestyle?

I don't use algs, it's completely intuitive the way I do my blocks now. When I started MB, it was very broken up. Now I just do MBA MBB MBC MBD, but completely intuitive.

EDIT: Waffle, I don't think I'll ever get to a 1 look block. 2? Definitely. 1? Probably never.

 

[jms_gears1]

when I made the tutorial, I was hoping that people would transition to a one-look block that you can just do without having to create more problems with random techniques.

EDIT - now I feel like remaking them...

Umm yea, the idea is to have one look blocks, but learning these *random techniques* are like stepping stones, Showing people how to put together the F2B blocks.

Once you can learn to do a 2 look block then it becomes much easier to make it one look

although im still having trouble seeing the entire block.

But since your much more experienced now that you have made your tutorial, i wouldnt mind seeing how youd them now.

 

[waffle=ijm]

learning these *random techniques* are like stepping stones

For me, learning random techniques make you stick with those random techniques. If you were just to wing it every time, you develop that habit of freestyling and make almost one-look. That's how I view it at least and I think I'm ended up okay with just winging it from the beginning.

 

[jms_gears1]

learning these *random techniques* are like stepping stones

For me, learning random techniques make you stick with those random techniques. If you were just to wing it every time, you develop that habit of freestyling and make almost one-look. That's how I view it at least and I think I'm ended up okay with just winging it from the beginning.

welll you are faster than me so meh.

Hmm well then. Make dem videos >