Cubing High on Marijuana

[beingforitself]

I'm starting to understand that weed isn't gonna **** up everything and make your life miserable. But I'm still not supporting it, nor will I ever start doing it.

The point is about the absurdity and irrationality of weed being illegal, not about your personal view of it. I don't support smoking cigarettes, nor will I ever start smoking them. I think actually that nobody should ever use tobacco. At the same time though, I don't think that people who smoke cigarettes or sell them should be hunted down by the police and thrown in jail.

 

[qqwref]

Making drug possession illegal in general seems to be a bad idea. It creates a black market and a drug trade where there doesn't need to be one, and ends up punishing people for something they often have no control over. Trying to prevent people from bad decisions by illegalizing them is kind of silly anyway... it might be a good incentive against starting, but if someone made a mistake that only hurt themselves the last thing you should be doing is throwing them in jail for it.

 

[blade740]

Yeah sorry I was rather tired and not thinking quite straight when I wrote that up last night.

I think it is unreasonable because one is "naturally" induced by the brain, while the other is a forced change to the brain. In the same way, I think it would be unreasonable to compare someone who had their liver crap out because of old age, and a young person who was a heavy drinker. I'm not sure if that analogy really makes any sense at all, but I guess I will have to wait and see if you get the point of it or not.

I get your analogy just fine, but you're missing the point. Your liver crapping out is bad. It's a given you want to keep it from crapping out. But you haven't explained why imbalancing brain chemicals is bad. You do other things to imbalance chemicals in your brain ON PURPOSE and think of them as beneficial. I think of the chemical imbalance I'm creating in my head as a good thing. I have yet to see any scientific proof that I'm doing any major damage to my brain.

I could have insisted that I put more indirect consequences, but I guess I haven't. Some others might include: a desire to be extremely lazy (or a loss of motivation), resulting in loss of job, therefore income etc.; a need to spend a lot of money on it when one cannot afford it, resulting in sacrificing other basic needs such as nutrition; a lack of judgement, which could result in almost anything.

"Might" being the key word there. I do not have the desire to be completely lazy, I have a good job, and make a decent income. I don't spend money on it that I can't afford, and I spend less than most of my coworkers do on starbucks coffee. And I've never done something stoned that I regretted sober. If I have tried marijuana, and none of these bad things have happened to me, what's the problem?

 

[Kenneth]

...I do not have the desire to be completely lazy, I have a good job, and make a decent income. I don't spend money on it that I can't afford, and I spend less than most of my coworkers do on starbucks coffee. And I've never done something stoned that I regretted sober. If I have tried marijuana, and none of these bad things have happened to me, what's the problem?

It smells like cat pee?

 

[Dene]

blade740: you keep referring to yourself, but I am referring to those who would not be responsible with the drug. Naturally, these numbers would only be amplified by the legalisation of it (I already stated this).

And the reason I think the "artificial" imbalancing of brain chemicals is bad is because the brain can create a dependence on the changes. I am certain that this would also happen in people that are used to regularly having endorphin boosts through physical activity. But at least such a dependence promotes healthy behaviour. A dependence on weed, as I have argued, would lead to unhealthy behaviour (or at least potentially life-ruining).

 

[Kenneth]

If you are doing drugs and are injured then that is your fault and you deserve it. That goes for any activity, if there is a risk and you were willing to take it, I don't feel sorry for you when it happens.

Same goes for people who are stupid enough to do risky sports or take risky jobs (like the police).

 

[dunpeal2064]

If you are doing drugs and are injured then that is your fault and you deserve it. That goes for any activity, if there is a risk and you were willing to take it, I don't feel sorry for you when it happens.

Same goes for people who are stupid enough to do risky sports or take risky jobs (like the police).

I agree here. By the logic that an ignorant person could damage themselves or others from something shouldn't really have a say on its legality. I mean, knives are legal, and shotguns. I'm pretty sure these stupid people would be more dangerous with a gun than a bowl xD

 

[Escher]

...I do not have the desire to be completely lazy, I have a good job, and make a decent income. I don't spend money on it that I can't afford, and I spend less than most of my coworkers do on starbucks coffee. And I've never done something stoned that I regretted sober. If I have tried marijuana, and none of these bad things have happened to me, what's the problem?

It smells like cat pee?

What the hell have you been smoking?

 

[Kenneth]

...I do not have the desire to be completely lazy, I have a good job, and make a decent income. I don't spend money on it that I can't afford, and I spend less than most of my coworkers do on starbucks coffee. And I've never done something stoned that I regretted sober. If I have tried marijuana, and none of these bad things have happened to me, what's the problem?

It smells like cat pee?

What the hell have you been smoking?

Ok, skunk then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_(disambiguation)

 

[DaijoCube]

...I do not have the desire to be completely lazy, I have a good job, and make a decent income. I don't spend money on it that I can't afford, and I spend less than most of my coworkers do on starbucks coffee. And I've never done something stoned that I regretted sober. If I have tried marijuana, and none of these bad things have happened to me, what's the problem?

It smells like cat pee?

What the hell have you been smoking?

Ok, skunk then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_(disambiguation)

Weed definitely smells like skunk. But Corona (beer) too! And this beer is really good, eh!

 

[Kirjava]

So what you're saying is that you do not believe that there are any cases where someone started smoking Marijuana, and it lead to them taking harder drugs which in effect ruined their lives? Furthermore, by making it legal to smoke Marijuana, you do not think that the instances of this occurring would be amplified even more?

I never stated anything like this. I was reffering to you talking about "psycho P addicts going around with guns". Be less confused.

When I was talking about a psycho P addict going around with a gun, I was implying that it was very likely that the person in question started with a drug like marijuana, then thought they would try harder drugs and got hooked and then went crazy because of it. (btw, I'm referring to a semi-recent case that actually happened in NZ, although I don't know the details of the criminal's past).

 

[DaijoCube]

lol

 

[F1Z2L3]

I've cubed high on weed. It's really not as fun as you might think. I'm a lot slower and I seem to forget simple permutations. But for some reason its funny. I just think differently on it. Whats a lot more enjoyable is listening to your favorite music or poetry. It's truely mind blowing! Everything is playing in your head and you feel like your in the music. Every little snare, knick, scratch, every sound is emphasized and you truely immerse yourself in the experience. As for cubing, it would probably be more enjoyable on shrooms or lsd because I heard you can taste colors and stuff like that. I've never tried that and never plan on doing it and I'm not suggesting that you should try it either. I'm on the fence about weed being a gateway drug. I think it depends on the person.

 

[RyanO]

Also I don't believe in the "gateway drug" theory because from all the statistics I have, not one of my friends has moved to harder drugs after trying marijuana. And I have about 40 datapoints.

Most of the people I know who smoke weed have also done other drugs. However, I don't think you can really blame weed for that. By my observations, it seems like the second drug someone tries is more of a gateway drug. Most of the pot smokers I know were content just smoking pot for quite awhile, but once they tried a second drug their experimentation accelerated rapidly. People are curious by nature, that's not the fault of weed. I don't condone or condemn drug experimentation, but I do advise doing research on the substances you put in your body.

Of all of the drug users I know, the only people with substance abuse problems that control their lives are those who abuse alcohol.

 

[dunpeal2064]

Also I don't believe in the "gateway drug" theory because from all the statistics I have, not one of my friends has moved to harder drugs after trying marijuana. And I have about 40 datapoints.

Most of the people I know who smoke weed have also done other drugs. However, I don't think you can really blame weed for that. By my observations, it seems like the second drug someone tries is more of a gateway drug. Most of the pot smokers I know were content just smoking pot for quite awhile, but once they tried a second drug their experimentation accelerated rapidly. People are curious by nature, that's not the fault of weed. I don't condone or condemn drug experimentation, but I do advise doing research on the substances you put in your body.

Of all of the drug users I know, the only people with substance abuse problems that control their lives are those who abuse alcohol.

Huh, that is a very interesting theory on the gateway drug thing. I can say that all the stoners I know started from the ages of 13-16, and were content doing just that for a while. A few of them ended up trying coke after high school, and shortly after ended up getting hooked on either E or meth (meth is really bad where I live)

Never had really thought about it that way until I read your post, but it very much makes sense.

 

[beingforitself]

I am referring to those who would not be responsible with the drug. Naturally, these numbers would only be amplified by the legalisation of it (I already stated this).

The social ills caused by prohibition so grossly outweigh the (dubious, and in the case of the Netherlands and Portugal factually disproven) downsides of legalization it's sort of ridiculous.

 

[negative_earth]

can you even walk when you're high?

when i'm high, it's like, when i want to stand up, i will count to three... and when i finished counting, i totally forgot why am i counting for


hahahahaha ^_^

I can walk, I can ride my bike too

i bet you never tried my local weed

 

[goatseforever]

If you were riding an elevator to the 52nd floor of a 76 story skyscraper, holding two staplers in each hand that could hold 75 staples each, and the elevator was filled with maple syrup. (WHAT THE **** A VELOCIRAPTOR?)

 

[Hadley4000]

As for cubing, it would probably be more enjoyable on shrooms or lsd because I heard you can taste colors

That's not really the effect that shrooms have, though. Mushrooms often times don't make you trip balls/hallucinate crazy things. They make music sound cooler, colors seem brighter, and overall awesome feeling, not teacups walking across the room.

 

[DaijoCube]

As for cubing, it would probably be more enjoyable on shrooms or lsd because I heard you can taste colors

That's not really the effect that shrooms have, though. Mushrooms often times don't make you trip balls/hallucinate crazy things. They make music sound cooler, colors seem brighter, and overall awesome feeling, not teacups walking across the room.

Walt Disney already does that, why take drugs