Cubing High on Marijuana

[Jude]

I look down to people who take drugs like marijuana. They need something potentially fatal for satisfaction. Not to mention the hight prices on them and with most being illegal in most places. Just for what? Seeing crazy images and making stupid non thought out decision.

You have your drugs all confused, you just named the effects of 3-4 different drugs, none of them Marijuana. Marijuana is not potentially fatal, is not very expensive, does not cause hallucinations, and doesn't cause you to make "stupid non thought out decision." Yes it is illegal most places, but so is driving barely over the speed limit, and nobody really minds that.

I really look down on people who make judgments when they have no clue what the hell they are talking about.

I said "drugs like marijuana" by that I meant the illegal ones. Sorry for not specifying.

But the point is that the drugs that cause the effects you were talking about, aren't like weed, for exactly that reason. I have never touched any illegal drug other than weed, and I have never smoked tobacco on it's own my entire life. Weed, on the other hand, I think is fine, precisely because it isn't potentially fatal/expensive and it doesn't cause "stupid non thought out decision"

I just don't see the point of putting harmful things in your body just for satisfaction.

Do you ever eat junk food?

Yes I do. But I can control that. People who take drugs often can't.

This is just plain wrong, where are you getting your facts from? (Silly question, you're obviously just making them up)

 

[negative_earth]

can you even walk when you're high?

when i'm high, it's like, when i want to stand up, i will count to three... and when i finished counting, i totally forgot why am i counting for

hahahahaha ^_^

 

[Dene]

Drugs aren't the only thing that change chemical balance. Exercise (like skating) increases adrenaline, cubing causes your brain to release endorphins. Hell, eating vitamins changes your body's chemical balance. What's the difference between eating something that tastes good and smoking something that makes you feel good? If it doesn't harm me any more than the food I eat, why shouldn't I smoke? lift+ is a drug.

I don't think it is reasonable to compare endorphins generated through physical activity to inhalation of chemicals through smoking or other forms of drugs that are done for the sole purpose of causing a chemical imbalance thus creating the effects that it does, whatever they may be.

The problem with smoking something that feels good, even if it doesn't harm you, as I have said several times before is the indirect consequences that it can have.

 

[DaijoCube]

can you even walk when you're high?

when i'm high, it's like, when i want to stand up, i will count to three... and when i finished counting, i totally forgot why am i counting for


hahahahaha ^_^

I can walk, I can ride my bike too

 

[eastamazonantidote]

Never taken drugs, never will. And you guys: any form of smoking absolutely f***s up your liver, lungs, and kidneys. So don't say it doesn't do anything bad. I don't care if you smoke, just don't use up your country's health care money because of it.

I have seen many people high at school almost fully functional, so it's not impossible.

 

[blade740]

I don't think it is reasonable to compare endorphins generated through physical activity to inhalation of chemicals through smoking or other forms of drugs that are done for the sole purpose of causing a chemical imbalance thus creating the effects that it does, whatever they may be.

The problem with smoking something that feels good, even if it doesn't harm you, as I have said several times before is the indirect consequences that it can have.

I think it's reasonable. (See, I can make statements without any reasoning and expect you to agree too)

You haven't mentioned any "inderect consequences" in this thread besides the so-called "gateway effect", which as far as I'm concerned is invalid. I have never had the urge to try heroin, before or after taking marijuana.

 

[DaijoCube]

Never taken drugs, never will. And you guys: any form of smoking absolutely f***s up your liver, lungs, and kidneys. So don't say it doesn't do anything bad. I don't care if you smoke, just don't use up your country's health care money because of it.

I have seen many people high at school almost fully functional, so it's not impossible.

You do not necessarily SMOKE weed. You can eat it.

 

[jms_gears1]

can you even walk when you're high?

when i'm high, it's like, when i want to stand up, i will count to three... and when i finished counting, i totally forgot why am i counting for


hahahahaha ^_^

I can walk, I can ride my bike too

With no handlebars?

 

[qqwref]

Never taken drugs, never will. And you guys: any form of smoking absolutely f***s up your liver, lungs, and kidneys. So don't say it doesn't do anything bad. I don't care if you smoke, just don't use up your country's health care money because of it.

Not all drugs are the same. I can't see how you expect someone to take your argument seriously when you basically equate crack cocaine and meth with pot.
I don't think smoking pure marijuana* will cause serious long-term liver and kidney damage, because if it did you'd hear of fatalities from marijuana usage. Besides, "use up your country's health care money"? Since when did every country have nationalized health care, and since when did smoking weed lead to tons of hospital visits anyway? Obviously there are bad drugs out there, but the point of this topic isn't to debate that but to say that weed isn't one of them.


* Because marijuana is illegal, it is sometimes mixed with various chemicals that are far more destructive than marijuana itself. This is simply a consequence of the illegal-drug trade and economy. If it were legalized, and treated like alcohol or tobacco (regulations on quality, establishment of brand names, stores with a license to sell it), this problem would essentially disappear.

 

[Athefre]

Alcohol is worse.

The End.

 

[jms_gears1]

Alcohol is worse.

The End.

You never hear of someone say, "Watch out for him hes on pot hell kick your ass "

what you hear is: "watch out for him hes on pot, hes going to eat your cheerios and sleep on your couch."

 

[DaijoCube]

can you even walk when you're high?

when i'm high, it's like, when i want to stand up, i will count to three... and when i finished counting, i totally forgot why am i counting for


hahahahaha ^_^

I can walk, I can ride my bike too

With no handlebars?

Never taken drugs, never will. And you guys: any form of smoking absolutely f***s up your liver, lungs, and kidneys. So don't say it doesn't do anything bad. I don't care if you smoke, just don't use up your country's health care money because of it.

Not all drugs are the same. I can't see how you expect someone to take your argument seriously when you basically equate crack cocaine and meth with pot.
I don't think smoking pure marijuana* will cause serious long-term liver and kidney damage, because if it did you'd hear of fatalities from marijuana usage. Besides, "use up your country's health care money"? Since when did every country have nationalized health care, and since when did smoking weed lead to tons of hospital visits anyway? Obviously there are bad drugs out there, but the point of this topic isn't to debate that but to say that weed isn't one of them.


* Because marijuana is illegal, it is sometimes mixed with various chemicals that are far more destructive than marijuana itself. This is simply a consequence of the illegal-drug trade and economy. If it were legalized, and treated like alcohol or tobacco (regulations on quality, establishment of brand names, stores with a license to sell it), this problem would essentially disappear.

Yep, it's known that cigarettes are only made of tobacco since it's legal! :fp

Alcohol is worse.

The End.

You never hear of someone say, "Watch out for him hes on pot hell kick your ass "

what you hear is: "watch out for him hes on pot, hes going to eat your cheerios and sleep on your couch."

LOL, true that.

 

[CAT13]

"watch out for him hes on pot, hes going to eat your cheerios and sleep on your couch."

I like this

Anyway, I don't smoke and I have honestly never felt the need to do so. It is just a big waste of money, regardless of health effects. I can just play video games or cube or write crappy programs for fun. I don't have to spend a lot of money to do those things and as I do them I get better at it.
I'm not going to flame anyone for doing drugs because most likely people who do drugs don't like people like me anyway. If you are doing drugs and are injured then that is your fault and you deserve it. That goes for any activity, if there is a risk and you were willing to take it, I don't feel sorry for you when it happens.
I don't even know why I just typed that out, but I did.

 

[qqwref]

* Because marijuana is illegal, it is sometimes mixed with various chemicals that are far more destructive than marijuana itself. This is simply a consequence of the illegal-drug trade and economy. If it were legalized, and treated like alcohol or tobacco (regulations on quality, establishment of brand names, stores with a license to sell it), this problem would essentially disappear.

Yep, it's known that cigarettes are only made of tobacco since it's legal! :fp

Hah, good point. I think tobacco companies mainly stay in business because of government lobbying (read: bribes), though.

 

[Dene]

I don't think it is reasonable to compare endorphins generated through physical activity to inhalation of chemicals through smoking or other forms of drugs that are done for the sole purpose of causing a chemical imbalance thus creating the effects that it does, whatever they may be.

The problem with smoking something that feels good, even if it doesn't harm you, as I have said several times before is the indirect consequences that it can have.

I think it's reasonable. (See, I can make statements without any reasoning and expect you to agree too)

You haven't mentioned any "inderect consequences" in this thread besides the so-called "gateway effect", which as far as I'm concerned is invalid. I have never had the urge to try heroin, before or after taking marijuana.

Yeah sorry I was rather tired and not thinking quite straight when I wrote that up last night.

I think it is unreasonable because one is "naturally" induced by the brain, while the other is a forced change to the brain. In the same way, I think it would be unreasonable to compare someone who had their liver crap out because of old age, and a young person who was a heavy drinker. I'm not sure if that analogy really makes any sense at all, but I guess I will have to wait and see if you get the point of it or not.

I could have insisted that I put more indirect consequences, but I guess I haven't. Some others might include: a desire to be extremely lazy (or a loss of motivation), resulting in loss of job, therefore income etc.; a need to spend a lot of money on it when one cannot afford it, resulting in sacrificing other basic needs such as nutrition; a lack of judgement, which could result in almost anything.

 

[Karthik]

I thought I will chip in a few of my opinions.

... a desire to be extremely lazy (or a loss of motivation), resulting in loss of job, therefore income etc.;

I sort of agree to this, but hey I also feel very lazy after a dull Sunday morning followed by brunch.

..a need to spend a lot of money on it when one cannot afford it, resulting in sacrificing other basic needs such as nutrition;..

If weed were legal, it will probably cost lesser than what cigarettes cost these days. And you don't need to worry about nutrition, because hunger is one of the nicer effects of marijuana.

...a lack of judgement, which could result in almost anything.

I am sure most potheads would agree that it is easier for them to decide to not to drive when they are high than when they are drunk. Again, I know you are against alcohol too, but my point is that one isn't very seriously impaired by marijuana.

Also I don't believe in the "gateway drug" theory because from all the statistics I have, not one of my friends has moved to harder drugs after trying marijuana. And I have about 40 datapoints.

 

[jms_gears1]

I thought I will chip in a few of my opinions.

... a desire to be extremely lazy (or a loss of motivation), resulting in loss of job, therefore income etc.;

I sort of agree to this, but hey I also feel very lazy after a dull Sunday morning followed by brunch.

..a need to spend a lot of money on it when one cannot afford it, resulting in sacrificing other basic needs such as nutrition;..

If weed were legal, it will probably cost lesser than what cigarettes cost these days. And you don't need to worry about nutrition, because hunger is one of the nicer effects of marijuana.

Hence my joke

...a lack of judgement, which could result in almost anything.

I am sure most potheads would agree that it is easier for them to decide to not to drive when they are high than when they are drunk. Again, I know you are against alcohol too, but my point is that one isn't very seriously impaired by marijuana.

I dont think that Marijuana seriously impairs the judgment of people, and then if it does it only makes them lazy.

again my joke.

Also I don't believe in the "gateway drug" theory because from all the statistics I have, not one of my friends has moved to harder drugs after trying marijuana. And I have about 40 datapoints.

and do your points of data make a beautiful line?

 

[Dirk BerGuRK]

Also I don't believe in the "gateway drug" theory because from all the statistics I have, not one of my friends has moved to harder drugs after trying marijuana. And I have about 40 datapoints.

You statistics are useless because they are not a random sample of the population in question (not that I disagree with your point of view though).

 

[beingforitself]

I could have insisted that I put more indirect consequences, but I guess I haven't. Some others might include: a desire to be extremely lazy (or a loss of motivation), resulting in loss of job, therefore income etc.; a need to spend a lot of money on it when one cannot afford it, resulting in sacrificing other basic needs such as nutrition; a lack of judgement, which could result in almost anything.

That's nice. Here are some quite direct consequences of marijuana prohibition:

1)Arrest of hundreds of thousands of people every year, ruining the lives of many responsible users.
2)Imprisonment of thousands of people every year for no crime other than possession of marijuana, including taking the parents away from children, imprisoning cancer patients / people with debilitating medical conditions for merely using an effective medication for their condition.
3)Funneling billions of dollars every year into horrifically violent organized crime syndicates (some people estimate that the majority of profit of Mexican drug gangs comes not from cocaine or heroin but from selling cannabis).
4)Diverting millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours of law enforcement resources from prosecution and enforcement of crimes like murder, rape, robbery, etc. into arresting, trying, and imprisoning huge numbers of nonviolent marijuana users.

I guess marijuana prohibition is pretty awesome though, cause people might be really lazy otherwise, maybe. Or something.

 

[iasimp1997]

I could have insisted that I put more indirect consequences, but I guess I haven't. Some others might include: a desire to be extremely lazy (or a loss of motivation), resulting in loss of job, therefore income etc.; a need to spend a lot of money on it when one cannot afford it, resulting in sacrificing other basic needs such as nutrition; a lack of judgement, which could result in almost anything.

That's nice. Here are some quite direct consequences of marijuana prohibition:

1)Arrest of hundreds of thousands of people every year, ruining the lives of many responsible users.
2)Imprisonment of thousands of people every year for no crime other than possession of marijuana, including taking the parents away from children, imprisoning cancer patients / people with debilitating medical conditions for merely using an effective medication for their condition.
3)Funneling billions of dollars every year into horrifically violent organized crime syndicates (some people estimate that the majority of profit of Mexican drug gangs comes not from cocaine or heroin but from selling cannabis).
4)Diverting millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours of law enforcement resources from prosecution and enforcement of crimes like murder, rape, robbery, harder drugs, etc. into arresting, trying, and imprisoning huge numbers of nonviolent marijuana users.

I guess marijuana prohibition is pretty awesome though, cause people might be really lazy otherwise, maybe. Or something.

#2 is a good point.
I'm starting to understand that weed isn't gonna **** up everything and make your life miserable. But I'm still not supporting it, nor will I ever start doing it.