Muesli
Premium Member
I've had enough of this.WTF? Ok, I admit that "just showing an easy scramble" were Ben's own words and they're ambiguous, but why do you always have to assume the worst possible meaning, ignoring evidence to the contrary? He didn't just show us an easy scramble, he mainly showed us an solve and a fast time. And easy scramble and easy solve are commonly used somewhat interchangeably, that's nothing new and you really should know better.You wouldn't act like that if you had just shown us an easy scramble.
As I understand it, scramble and solve were absolutely legitimate, not staged, it was the first attempt, not practiced. He does have pauses during the solve, even tilting the cube towards him to see the back, and you can clearly see that the previous solve (beginning of the video) ended with L2U, while his fast solve ended with U'R. I see absolutely no good reason to believe it's in any way fake, but I do see considerable reason to believe it's legitimate. Plus, innocent until proven guilty. At least among the civilized among us.
Annoyed is an understatement, you actually managed to enrage me. With the repeated strong and flawed accusations showing no good justification whatsoever, you're the epitome of haters, and I absolutely despise such behaviour, particularly when it comes from within our own community. I can ignore the outside haters on youtube, but among ourselves I find it absolutely unacceptable.I'm sorry to have annoyed you, but there's no reason to call me an ass.
Don't know whether you know, but back when Matyas was attacked, I was refuting unfair and unfounded arguments both for and against him as well, up until the point where we finally had real evidence. And if he comes back and people attack him unfairly and viciously and make flawed claims, I probably will call them out on that again, even though I have no doubt he did cheat and don't exactly like him much, given the way he handled it afterwards. I wish I could just let things like this slide, I wish I didn't care that much about others and our community, but unfortunately I do.
It is my opinion. OP IN ION! That this solve is fake. The title of this thread is 8.16 second 3x3 solve (with scramble and solution). At NO point in that title does it say "Easy scramble" or in the OP does it say "I found this easy scramble". Previously Ben has boasted about very low times and has not come up with any decent evidence for this, then he releases this video with a setup scramble and no evidence even hinting towards the fact that he set it up. The title of this thread, the video and the OP are all misleading, and the only thing that refutes this is the hastily added annotation to the video after he was shown to be faking. With his past record and bad manner on the forums I think suspicions were raised in everybodies minds. Innocent until proven guilty? He has been proven guilty before and I had no reason to suspect this would be any different. I care about people in this community as much as you do, I just don't want this forum to become tainted with people faking.
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