Freestyle Tutorial?

[CubeLord]

Does anyone have a freestyle tutorial for edges and corners?

 

[Muesli]

Surely Freestyle means you do it anyway you feel like it so you can't make a tutorial.

 

[puzzlemaster]

lolthread.

 

[CubeLord]

Does anyone have a freestyle tutorial for edges and corners?

When I say Freestyle, I mean the one with making up commutators

 

[Jokerman5656]

Freestyle
1) Refers to music (usually rap and sometimes techno) where everything is made up as they go along. In rap, people make up lyrics as they go along, but in techno, the DJ improvises beats and mixes songs on the spot.
2) A move in sports (especially extreme sports) where someone pulls off a stunt that doesnt really follow any guidelines for any regular move.
Courtesy of Urban Dictionary

 

[Stini]

I guess this might interest you:

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12268

 

[amostay2004]

I would actually like a freestyle (BLD) tutorial as well. Yes, freestyle means doing anything you can think of to solve a particular piece/pieces so there can't be a proper method to teach it but it also means there are so many to learn from freestylers out there, since people can view a certain case from different perspectives and use different methods to solve it.

Tutorials, in this context, would just mean example solves of freestyle BLD or at least guidelines on what are the common methods for solving different cases. I say this because I'm also attempting to learn freestyle but I'm not sure if what I know is really sufficient enough.

I'm sure pro freestylers like Alex Yu and Ville Seppanen have pretty rigid form of freestyling having done thousands upon thousands of solves and it would be really useful to get tips from them.

 

[puzzlemaster]

I would actually like a freestyle (BLD) tutorial as well. Yes, freestyle means doing anything you can think of to solve a particular piece/pieces so there can't be a proper method to teach it but it also means there are so many to learn from freestylers out there, since people can view a certain case from different perspectives and use different methods to solve it.

Tutorials, in this context, would just mean example solves of freestyle BLD or at least guidelines on what are the common methods for solving different cases. I say this because I'm also attempting to learn freestyle but I'm not sure if what I know is really sufficient enough.

I'm sure pro freestylers like Alex Yu and Ville Seppanen have pretty rigid form of freestyling having done thousands upon thousands of solves and it would be really useful to get tips from them.

Doesn't Alex just use 3OP?

 

[Sakarie]

If you want to learn freestyle, learn commutators. When you know commutators well enough, you can do freestyle.

Yes, the BH-tutorial may absolutely help, but Chris's list of (move-)optimal commutators for corners helped me more.

http://speedcubing.com/chris/bhcorners.html

 

[yoruichi]

no mang no uso 3op
3op es para los nubes
la orientacion no es necesario para ganar
ademas no soy un pro freestyler

 

[Weston]

no mang no uso 3op
3op es para los nubes
la orientacion no es necesario para ganar
ademas no soy un pro freestyler

Yes you are.

 

[cmhardw]

I don't understand why this has to be a "lolthread" :confused:

It reminds me of this:

Also if you can't solve it, be more intuitive and if you practice hard you will get it

Surely freestyle BLD must be more quantifiable than "just be more freestlye and you will get it."

I think what the OP is asking for is specific examples of how to handle specific cases. And don't just go with the now cliche "Well it's freestyle, so like freestyle your way through how totally freestyle it is, and the magic of freestyle is that the freestyle will solve your cube, like totally freestyle."

Chris

 

[Mike Hughey]

I still think BH is the way to go on this. If you want to learn freestyle, a good way to do it is first learn BH (since it's really not that hard to learn). Then optimize. Voilà - freestyle!

 

[Escher]

I suggest to make freestyle easier for yourself, get good at commutating pieces, learn ELL and learn everything in this: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=393
Learning BH would be a great idea too.

Clue: specific questions gives you specific answers.

 

[Lucas Garron]

I'm sure pro freestylers like Alex Yu and Ville Seppanen have pretty rigid form of freestyling having done thousands upon thousands of solves and it would be really useful to get tips from them.

It's well-established that this is BH.

Anyhow, there are quite a lot of freestyle solutions written up in this forum.
Also, I can offer this and this.

 

[amostay2004]

Anyhow, there are quite a lot of freestyle solutions written up in this forum.
Also, I can offer this and this.

Thanks Lucas! Didn't notice the edge algorithms at your site before, probably because I'm focusing more on corners right now.

I've also found this to be pretty helpful. Perhaps we should have more of these? Corners are a pain in the !@#$

 

[yoruichi]

hey garron the BH list has some weird algs that arnt fast to do
in conclusion freestyle is just a silly name for 3 cyle except that u can use algs from other places 2.

 

[puzzlemaster]

I understand the basics of BH...however how would you memorize the cycles? I'm used to classic pochmann for corners and M2 for edges...is there a way to utilize letters and visual memo to memorize for BH? Any tips?

 

[cmhardw]

I understand the basics of BH...however how would you memorize the cycles? I'm used to classic pochmann for corners and M2 for edges...is there a way to utilize letters and visual memo to memorize for BH? Any tips?

Study all the commutators of the same name type. For example if you look at every case labeled "columns" you will find that you are actually doing the same exact moves, just from a different angle. Study how the pieces move in relation to each other, not which specific turns you apply to the cube.

Daniel and I have intended to write a guide on how to do BH more intuitive style, but alas this has not yet happened. The alg lists will have to suffice for a while.

I can assure you that it is not memorizing algs, but learning how to apply the commutator type (the name) to a different angle.

Chris

 

[puzzlemaster]

I understand the basics of BH...however how would you memorize the cycles? I'm used to classic pochmann for corners and M2 for edges...is there a way to utilize letters and visual memo to memorize for BH? Any tips?

Study all the commutators of the same name type. For example if you look at every case labeled "columns" you will find that you are actually doing the same exact moves, just from a different angle. Study how the pieces move in relation to each other, not which specific turns you apply to the cube.

Daniel and I have intended to write a guide on how to do BH more intuitive style, but alas this has not yet happened. The alg lists will have to suffice for a while.

I can assure you that it is not memorizing algs, but learning how to apply the commutator type (the name) to a different angle.

Chris

My apologies. You misunderstood my question and this was probably because of my wording . How do you memorize the cycles when memorizing the cube before solving? (hope that cleared up the confusion)