4x4 questions for getting better.

[Charybdis]

ive had a 4x4x4 for a bit now and i use reduction method and can get around 3 minutes average with 2:32 as pb, is this good? normal or bad?

id much like to learn a faster method than reduction so what would be some good methods to look at? and good websites with these methods on.
so yeh, basically is my time bad or good or average and anybetter faster methods out there?

cheers

 

[dannyz0r]

Even with a so-called "faster method" it won't be fast without practice.

 

[Dene]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but reduction has been the best method around for a long time. I believe people have been experimenting with more advanced methods lately, but they are too advanced for you as a beginner. People can average sub50 with reduction, so you have no excuse

 

[Muesli]

Nice to see you found that button.

Reduction is (many people would argue) the fastest method around. With practise it can be extremely fast. I teach it crap, so you might want to relearn it all.

 

[Charybdis]

well with the so called faster method... i would of course... practise... i dont plan on doing it once. lol. do you know of any? thank you

 

[Muesli]

well with the so called faster method... i would of course... practise... i dont plan on doing it once. lol. do you know of any? thank you

Reduction is the fastest method!

 

[Charybdis]

tut really fastest around... that sucks...well ognna have to get better then oviously...

and im not that much of a begginner, just begginner on 4x4.

 

[Carson]

My averages are around the same as your's. Typical average is around 3:00 with a PB of around 2:00. Do you use single, double, or triple edge pairing? I myself use double, and can tell you that I spend TONS of time searching for edge pieces. I'm sure that I could cut my overall average down by at least :30 if I could eliminate all of that searching. Also, keep in mind that the final step is a 3x3 solve, which means that your times will be very dependant on your 3x3 average.

 

[Dene]

Check the puzzle theory section, where I believe qqwref made a post about a method hybrid for the 4x4. That's about as far as it goes at the moment.

 

[V-te]

Make sure you have a good cube, and make sure you have nice parity algs. They will help. Also, If you want, you could practice 3x3 solves on your 4x4 so you can get used to it. But pretty much what everyone else said above

 

[Deleted member 4527]

I was wondering how fast can you get with 2 pair? I average around 1:05 now and I can't seem to get faster even though I practice quite a bit

 

[Charybdis]

My averages are around the same as your's. Typical average is around 3:00 with a PB of around 2:00. Do you use single, double, or triple edge pairing? I myself use double, and can tell you that I spend TONS of time searching for edge pieces. I'm sure that I could cut my overall average down by at least :30 if I could eliminate all of that searching. Also, keep in mind that the final step is a 3x3 solve, which means that your times will be very defendant on your 3x3 average.

nice to know someone else is tha same
i still use single edge pairing so i guess that will be my next step to learn, double or triple.. know of anywhere good tolearn that?
and yes the edge searching sucks lol

 

[Muesli]

My averages are around the same as your's. Typical average is around 3:00 with a PB of around 2:00. Do you use single, double, or triple edge pairing? I myself use double, and can tell you that I spend TONS of time searching for edge pieces. I'm sure that I could cut my overall average down by at least :30 if I could eliminate all of that searching. Also, keep in mind that the final step is a 3x3 solve, which means that your times will be very defendant on your 3x3 average.

nice to know someone else is tha same
i still use single edge pairing so i guess that will be my next step to learn, double or triple.. know of anywhere good tolearn that?
and yes the edge searching sucks lol

Dude. I'm the same too. Also, there is a edit button.

 

[Charybdis]

My averages are around the same as your's. Typical average is around 3:00 with a PB of around 2:00. Do you use single, double, or triple edge pairing? I myself use double, and can tell you that I spend TONS of time searching for edge pieces. I'm sure that I could cut my overall average down by at least :30 if I could eliminate all of that searching. Also, keep in mind that the final step is a 3x3 solve, which means that your times will be very defendant on your 3x3 average.

nice to know someone else is tha same
i still use single edge pairing so i guess that will be my next step to learn, double or triple.. know of anywhere good tolearn that?
and yes the edge searching sucks lol

Dude. I'm the same too. Also, there is a edit button.

my post wasnt showing up, so there wasnt an edit button to click man... so i had to retype... then when i posted that lo and behold my firs tpost appeared...

 

[TMOY]

Well, the most important is not to use the so-called "fastest method", it's to use the method with which *you* will go the fastest. I suck horribly with reduction (I'm even slower than you), mainly because I really don't enjoy solving a big cube that way; that doesn't prevent me from getting much faster than that with a method that I like (sandwich, which can also go very fast).

 

[Carson]

i still use single edge pairing so i guess that will be my next step to learn, double or triple.. know of anywhere good tolearn that?
and yes the edge searching sucks lol

Yes, this should help you a lot.

 

[Kurama]

Well, I think that the method is not important .The really Important is Practise

I have used a lot of methods to pairing edges, and at the end I always use the first that i learnt.
I have paired edges
-1 by 1
-2 by 2 (That's which I use)
-'Advanced Method' (3 by 3)
-Using 'Dan Cohen' Method (That explains in a Video)

So, If I were you, I forget about learning advanced methods, and I practise one to improve it.

 

[Dene]

i still use single edge pairing so i guess that will be my next step to learn, double or triple.. know of anywhere good tolearn that?
and yes the edge searching sucks lol

Yes, this should help you a lot.

I don't think this will help at all. I believe Mr. Akkersdijk use(d?) 2 at a time edge pairing and was getting sub50 averages with it.