Conjugated PLLs

[Lucas Garron]

In a thread on the German forum, somebody posted a cool F-perm I hadn't seen:

R'U'F'RUR'U'R'FR2U'R'U'RUR'UR

This is essentially R' U' F' {T-perm} with an obvious cancellation at the end. I had never noticed that setup before, but I'm switching to it, at least for big cubes.

I know that some people use a conjugated V-perm alg, also for the F: R'U2R'U'yR'F'R2U'R'UR'FRU'F

And until everyone switched to Rowe's E, this was going around: R2UR'U'yRUR'U'RUR'U'RUR'y'RU'R2 = [R2UR'U'y: (RUR'U')3]

Does anybody else have any particularly cool PLL conjugates they like?

 

[IamWEB]

*Reserved post to edit once I understand how cool this is*

EDIT: I think I just found my OH F perm.

 

[fanwuq]

And until everyone switched to Rowe's E, this was going around: R2UR'U'yRUR'U'RUR'U'RUR'y'RU'R2 = [R2UR'U'y: (RUR'U')3]

That's my alg! What's Rowe's E?

I'm liking your F perm, thanks!

 

[deepSubDiver]

I was using that F and E perm for a while now, they helped my awkward fingertricks a lot

What is that V-perm you mentioned?

\edit: Also, no conjugate but pretty cool though: r U r' U' r' F r2 U' r' U' r U r' F' U

 

[retr0]

Do you mean like how
T Perm - (R U R' U') (R' F) (R2 U' R') U' (R U R' F')
J (b) Perm - (R U R' F') (R U R' U') (R' F) (R2 U' R') U'

The part at the end is just moved to the front

or

V perm - (R' U R' d') (R' F') (R2 U' R' U) (R' F R F)
F perm - (R' U2 R' d') (R' F') (R2 U' R' U) (R' F R U' F)
U added in the first segment, and in the last, but otherwise the same.

Are those what you mean?

 

[Lucas Garron]

What's Rowe's E?

x'RU'R'DRUR'D'RUR'DRU'R'D'x

Are those what you mean?

That's not what I mean, although you're not too far off. See this.

 

[dbax0999]

RUR'URUR'F'RUR'U'R'FR2U'R'U2RU'R' for N-perm

Essentially R U R' U (J-perm) + some cancellation at the end. I think everyone already knows this one though.

 

[puzzlemaster]

Lol new F perm

 

[rowehessler]

What's Rowe's E?

x'RU'R'DRUR'D'RUR'DRU'R'D'x

this isn't "my" E, i learned it from Erik.

 

[fanwuq]

What's Rowe's E?

x'RU'R'DRUR'D'RUR'DRU'R'D'x

Oh, I know that alg. Learned it from Erik a year or 2 ago.
Some of my COLLs, like F2RU'R'U'RdRUR'B'RU'R, are conjugates of PLLs. I guess you could say that FRU'R'U'RdRUR'B'RU'R2 is a F' conjugate of the COLL with cancellation. You can think about them either way. I've always tried to turn PLLs or other COLLs to COLLs, I've never tried to turn conjugated COLLs into PLLs. Conjugates of other PLLs to PLLs are rarely good.

*Reserved post to edit once I understand how cool this is*

EDIT: I think I just found my OH F perm.

Try LRU2R'U'RU2L'RURURU'R'U'R2U', it's a J-perm + U perm combination with cancellations.

 

[blade740]

Yeah, sometimes I use conjugated PLLs instead of COLLs for a sort of "intuitive ZB" For example, R' Y perm R

 

[Lucas Garron]

What's Rowe's E?

x'RU'R'DRUR'D'RUR'DRU'R'D'x

this isn't "my" E, i learned it from Erik.

Well, of course it was known before.

But it's not like people thought it was sub-1-able, until they saw your E from Worlds and started talking about it. You're responsible for making me switch, at least.

 

[PEZenfuego]

Y permutation (do not recommend lol)

Put the base of the Y on the upper left

R U R' U (L permutation/Jb permutation) U' R U' R'

 

[fanwuq]

Yeah, sometimes I use conjugated PLLs instead of COLLs for a sort of "intuitive ZB" For example, R' Y perm R

LOL! Comment is 2 minutes too late.

 

[PatrickT]

Jeremy showed me this F perm a while ago. I think it's amazing how the corner orientation is preserved. I don't know where he learned it though.

 

[eastamazonantidote]

Aren't the <R,U,L> N perms conjugated <R,U,L> J perms which are just a conjugated Niklas?

On another note, I like that F perm but I don't like it enough to switch it for my optimized optimal version.

 

[rubiknewbie]

Definitely an option to consider since most F perms require cube rotations.

 

[LNZ]

I now have another PLL ready to use now. I already know the T-Perm already , so I gain a F-Perm for not much extra effort.

 

[Kenneth]

What's Rowe's E?

x'RU'R'DRUR'D'RUR'DRU'R'D'x

this isn't "my" E, i learned it from Erik.

I think this commutator is even better:

R' U L' D2 L U' R L' U R' D2 R U' L

But that's probably only me

 

[Sin-H]

Lucas, I adjusted your E Perm a bit because I like inverted sexy moves

R2 U R' y R U' R' U R U' R' U R U' R' U y' R U' R2