How many cube rotations do you use?

[rubiknewbie]

Recently I am interested to see how many cube rotations I can reduce during speedsolving, to the point where I sometimes use longer algorithms (but good for finger-tricks) to achieve that.

How many cube rotations do you use in normal solves? Take these random scrambles to try out.

Scramble: L U' L R2 D' U2 B' D R B' D R2 L B2 R' U2 B2 D' R2 F2 U2 D B' U2 B2

Scramble: D' B U D B2 L F D2 L R' U' L2 R2 F2 U' L R U' R2 B L2 B2 L' R' F'

Scramble: R B' L2 U2 D' F' D B2 R L' D2 L' U2 D' F L' F2 U F R' L' B' F2 R2 F

Scramble: B2 L2 R F' B U2 F2 R L B2 R2 F L2 B2 L R B2 L R2 U2 D L B L R

Scramble: F' L2 U2 R2 F' R2 D2 B2 U2 D2 R2 B2 F2 D2 R2 U' F B' U D2 R' L' F' L U

 

[Edward]

I dont need an a5 to tell you I do about 5-12 cube rotations.

 

[4Chan]

Hmmmm, with ZZ, I only do a few in the beginning and a few for LL.

With CFOP, i use GRATUITIOUS AMOUNTS of rotations.
More rotations than your body has room for.

 

[Hyprul 9-ty2]

I used about 6 rotations each. Lol.

 

[fundash]

i;m not gonna do those right now, but I usually do ALOT, like 12-20...

 

[LewisJ]

I dont need an a5 to tell you I do about 5-12 cube rotations.

5-12 is a broad range - I would say 5 is on the low end and 12 is on the high end, so it's not very specific. Counting for an a5 would be a lot more significant.

 

[Faz]

3
1
3
3
4

 

[rubiknewbie]

I tried solving the scrambles SLOWLY, and this is what I get for move count + cube rotation in parenthesis. I also include the d turns as I consider them semi-cube rotations (slower than normal turns).

Looks decent when done slow, but in actual speed solves I will probably cube rotate like crazy!


Scramble: L U' L R2 D' U2 B' D R B' D R2 L B2 R' U2 B2 D' R2 F2 U2 D B' U2 B2

cross: 6(0)
1st: 9(0)
2nd 9(0)
3rd: 6(0)
4th: 8(0)
OLL: 9(0)
PLL: 14(1)

Total: 61 moves + 1 cube rotation


Scramble: D' B U D B2 L F D2 L R' U' L2 R2 F2 U' L R U' R2 B L2 B2 L' R' F'

cross: 8(0)
1st: 6(0)
2nd: 4(d)
3rd: 8(dx2)
4th: 7(0)
OLL: 8(0)
PLL: 13(dx2)

Total: 54 moves + 5 d turns


Scramble: R B' L2 U2 D' F' D B2 R L' D2 L' U2 D' F L' F2 U F R' L' B' F2 R2 F

cross: 8(1)
1st: 4(d)
2nd: 8(d)
3rd: 7(0)
4th: 8(0)
OLL: 8(0)
PLL: 14(d)

Total: 57 moves + 1 cube rotation + 3 d turns


Scramble: B2 L2 R F' B U2 F2 R L B2 R2 F L2 B2 L R B2 L R2 U2 D L B L R

cross: 8(0)
1st: 9(d)
2nd: 9(d)
3rd: 9(0)
4th: 3(0)
OLL: 10(d)
PLL: 10(0)

Total: 58 moves + 3 d turns


Scramble: F' L2 U2 R2 F' R2 D2 B2 U2 D2 R2 B2 F2 D2 R2 U' F B' U D2 R' L' F' L U

cross: 8(0)
1st: 5(0)
2nd: 7(0)
3rd: 3(1)
4th: 7(0)
OLL: 9(0)
PLL: 15(0)

Total: 54 moves + 1 cube rotation

 

[Thomas09]

I do about 5 every solve.

 

[BigGreen]

1
1
1
0
0

 

[Raffael]

1) 3
2) 1
3) 5
4) 2
5) 4

 

[LNZ]

I'm not going to do the five random scrambles, but on average I use about 12 cube rotations per solve. And that is for a 3x3. For larger cubes, that figure is much larger.

 

[nigtv]

I'm not totally sure what you mean by rotation (you mean like turning it at all, or actually regripping to end up with a new face as FRUDBL?), and for either of those, it depends on what I'm trying to do (fast, fewest turns, or fun). During a speedsolve, I'll generally do about 5 on average, with usually 2-4 of those being in the last 20 or so turns (a typical speedsolve for me consisting of about 45-55 turns).

Obviously fewest moves requires a lot of rotations for me (I usually record all of my rotations, even if im just tilting in to see B or D, as i loose track often...). Thats highly variable, but almost always over 20.

for fun, almost always between 8 and 11.

 

[rubiknewbie]

I mean when you have to record down x, y, or z.

 

[Zubon]

4
5
6 PLL skip
4
6

I really need to practice inserting pairs from all angles.

 

[nigtv]

I mean when you have to record down x, y, or z.

Then a little less often than I said. I do some tilts sometimes, but don't record them or consider them to be rotations unless i happen to be doing fewest moves or something like that.

 

[Sin-H]

4
2
3
2
1

[I don't rly do cross on bottom, so I have +1 rotation per solve ]

1
1
1
0
0

wow. I know you are doing Roux, but still...

 

[Inf3rn0]

4
6
1
3
4

 

[PatrickJameson]

5
11
8
6
5

These numbers are probably a little skewed from what I would usually get in a solve. While I was counting, I was turning slower than usual, making my lookahead much better and therefore I did not need to do some rotations that I would usually do in order to find certain pieces.

 

[Ness]

1
1
1
0
0

I could easily used no rotations at all since I use roux, but for the first block it's sometimes much more fingerfriendly. Actually I think I was turning a little bit slower than usual, so in a speedsolve it's probably 0-2 cube rotations for me.