Pyraminx LBL Method Improvements?

[Deleted member 4527]

So I've been practicing quite a bit of pyraminx recently and I finally got sub-6 avg of 5 today

Here are just some thoughts of improving the LBL method:
- X-cross (this is quite easy to do/intuitive)
- forcing a LL skip by inserting the edges in different ways (kind of like partial edge control on 3x3)

Also I'm trying to be colour neutral and I do cross on left while doing the first layer, not sure if this helps. And I was wondering if there are algs for the first layer edges like F2L algs because sometimes I will encounter cases which will take a lot of moves to solve, such as flip 1 edge and swap 2...

Also I saw from somewhere that ortega method could be adapted for the pyraminx, would that be better than the LBL method? and if I want to improve, do I need to learn more advanced methods like Oka or the Polish V method?

 

[anythingtwisty]

Oka is very easy to learn and addictive, I just did an average of 300 with it. I only have an 8 second average of 5 though.

 

[miniGOINGS]

Could you please explain the Oka and Polixh V methods?

 

[dbax0999]

Could you please explain the Oka and Polixh V methods?

+1

 

[miniGOINGS]

Could you please explain the Oka and Polixh V methods?

+1

Oops, mistake, it's supposed to say Polish V, sorry.

 

[Deleted member 4527]

I just learned the oka method which is used by the WR holder Yohei Oka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=045nrROkRRU

It's pretty easy but takes a while to get used to, I'm barely averaging sub-10 with it.

 

[Tim Major]

- forcing a LL skip by inserting the edges in different ways (kind of like partial edge control on 3x3)

Sorry for slight bump, but I thought I had made this method myself. I have made most of the algorithms, and they are very short, but I can't find a good recognition method. Rather than start a new thread, I wanted to know what suggestions people have for me. I consider this will be a very fast method. Most can be done intuitively, however, algs like this are not intuitive, but optimal. U' L' B L R L B' R L'.

Tell me any suggestions on working out a recognition method.

 

[linkmaster03]

When I first found the Oka method (it was from some Geocities website, and it wasn't called Oka) I constructed the "block" on the top-left, but the people in the tutorials I watched had the block on the bottom left. Isn't is awkward to spin U and u when orienting the centers if you hold it like this?

 

[Anthony]

- forcing a LL skip by inserting the edges in different ways (kind of like partial edge control on 3x3)

Sorry for slight bump, but I thought I had made this method myself.

lolwut?

Any pretty good Pyraminx solver who uses LBL has most likely noticed that you can force LL skips by inserting the final edge differently. I don't really practice Pyraminx so I've been too lazy to use anything other than LBL. I'm not great (like 8-9 average), but I've always forced LL skips when the cases are easy to recognize.

 

[Carrot]

I just learned the oka method which is used by the WR holder Yohei Oka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=045nrROkRRU

It's pretty easy but takes a while to get used to, I'm barely averaging sub-10 with it.

It's correct that he uses it... but he uses it as mush as I do... which means in like 2/7 solves or something like that...

He doesn't build a block... he builds a failed block then bad centers...... then he solves the top by using something as simple as R U R' (you get it... 3 moves and top is solved...)... the rest you already know =)