Yish is a liar

[Stefan]

Of course if I make a claim like that, I have evidence.

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Part 1) This video from this thread.

He applies the scramble correctly, the twisting is not edited, and the time is correct. However...

The solve is incredibly easy after a complicated xcross:
scramble: B2 D U2 R2 F2 D2 L2 F2 D2 L2 D' R2 U F' D U B' R' U F2 U' L2 U'
9 moves extended cross: B2 (R' R) U (R' R2) U R' F' U L R'
3 moves second pair: B' U B
3 moves third pair: B U B'
4 moves fourth pair and OLL: U R U2 R'
PLL = edge 3-cycle

There are canceling moves in his xcross.

He said "couple of f2ls. zbf2l. pll solved". There's no ZBF2L and there's no OLL or PLL skip.

When asked why he didn't inspect, he replied "shuffle for so long, along the way i also inspect lor haha". This would already be hard to believe if it wasn't a complicated xcross and if he weren't at the same time looking at the screen reading the scramble.

He needs 24 seconds to scramble, suggesting he's a slow cuber.

The scramble has only 23 moves. He uses JNetCube which shows 25 moves scrambles.

I painted the scrambled cube in Cube Explorer and let it generate it. Cube Explorer found this generator, which is *exactly* the same as Yish's scramble after a y2 cube rotation.
F2 D U2 L2 B2 D2 R2 B2 D2 R2 D' L2 U B' D U F' L' U B2 U' R2 U'

Conclusion: He probably constructed the solve and let Cube Explorer generate a fake scramble for it.

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Part 2) This video from this thread.

Scramble with U=yellow and F=red:
F2 L2 U2 R F2 U R' B' F2 R2 U F2 R' F' L' R D' R2 (18f)
1 move during inspection: D'
8 moves double extended cross: U B U B' R' U F B'
3 moves third pair: F U F'
7 moves fourth pair: B' U' B U' B' U' B
6 moves OLL: B U L U' L' B'
PLL = edge 3-cycle

So again an incredibly easy solve after an (in this time even double) xcross (which was btw executed just as quickly as the rest of his solve). There's also some moves canceling again but this time I left them out.

during the handing over of the scrambled cube i fumbled and almost dropped it, so i accidentally spun the D face (need to adjust my cube tension) when i grabbed it before it hit the floor. so yeah >< didnt have time to shift it back then cos my friend started the countdown. so i had to observe first then shift it back into place.

This is his defense after someone pointed out he made the D' turn near the end of inspection. It could very well be the truth, as he probably knew the scramble perfectly and thus was able to recognize it wasn't correctly scrambled.

Conclusion: Probably another constructed and rehearsed fake solve.

 

[Pedro]

nice job, Stefan
I think you should work at the FBI

that makes me wonder why people do that kind of thing...just to look fast? what do they earn with that?

is that the same Yish who can solve straing CFOP bld in 30 seconds?

 

[Stefan]

I think you should work at the FBI

They only take US citizens (see item 16). I looked at that a few years ago after getting a list of job opportunities from them after I competed in a programming competition they sponsored. Just for fun, though. I prefer being a free agent.

is that the same Yish who can solve straing CFOP bld in 30 seconds?

I guess so. Probably somebody watched him doing that and didn't notice him peeking, then told the story as if it were real, then Harris heard it and added the buzz word "photographic memory".

 

[masterofthebass]

Wow Stefan, you really put a little bit of effort into this. I never suspected that yish was valid, but now there's not doubt in my mind he is a fake. I find it hard to believe that he could do stuff this fast without finger tricks as well.

 

[Erik]

Good job Stefan Holmes , now where is that hat and pipe of yours? Oh yes you hate smoking .

 

[Stefan]

Wow Stefan, you really put a little bit of effort into this.

About three hours (including my above accusal). Analyzing that 7.52 video was tough, it has small size, not good quality, and the right hand often covers the cube. Then again, I'm stubborn. And watched quite a lot of House recently. He da man.

If you're curious how I analyze videos: I use KMPlayer or TMPGEnc's "preview" functionality to watch the video frame by frame. I also use at least one real cube or an applet cube I move simultaneously to the video. For constructing a scramble for an already scrambled cube (like in his slower video) I use Cube Explorer.

what do they earn with that?

Lifelong distrust, I hope. What's his real name?
Edit: As explained in my clarification post, I regret having said this this way.

 

[Jai]

I think I saw somewhere that Yish = Yi Sheng. I think that's his first name, assuming that Yish relates to his name.

You should make a video proving that it's fake, parodying the Michel Gondry fake solve proof vids, and also to get the word out there.

 

[pjk]

Yeah, I know it was BS when I first saw it. Member "yish" said he got down to like a 13 sec avg in 3 months, and then posted those vids. Lets not get member "yish" mixed up with anyone else until we know for sure.

anyway, lets try to keep this forum on topic. Does this fit into "speedcubing" or "general talk" more?

 

[Stefan]

chue.hsien seems to know him and called him Yi Sheng.

What's "general talk"? This forum was the most suitable I saw.

 

[Dene]

This is specifically about a speedcuber right? So it should go i nthe speedcubng forum . Nice job Mr. Pochmann, very good effort put in, just to prove him a liar . I'm sure the FBI would be prepared to make an exception to the rule, just for yourself .

 

[Lotsofsloths]

Wow..
I couldn't do that in a million years, well maybe you should go around youtube proving even more fakes

 

[MiloD]

I knew it!!!

 

[Swordsman Kirby]

Wow..
I couldn't do that in a million years, well maybe you should go around youtube proving even more fakes

There are simply too many.

 

[badmephisto]

wow i'm impressed nice job Stefan haha, that's a pretty thorough analysis

 

[Kristoffer]

wow..Nice work Stefan (Y)

 

[Lucas Garron]

Why is everybody congratulating Stefan?

It's simple: Everyone was suspicious, but no one knew for sure whether Yish was a fake.

Then along comes Stefan the hero and has all this fantastic evidence to prove his point! He looks like he's helping the speedcubing community through debunking!

Stefan must be obviously corroborating with Yish to set up this excellent scheme that makes him look so good. Yes, the video was a fake, but Stefan is equally much at fault for fraudulence.

 

[Mike Hughey]

Of course. How brilliant! So maybe Yish is actually fake - Stefan made him up?

 

[badmephisto]

Of course. How brilliant! So maybe Yish is actually fake - Stefan made him up?

ill get right on that. Expect me back with the evidence within 24 hours.

 

[AvGalen]

OK, so just like Clark Kent and Superman I am going to have to ask the question:

Has anyone ever seen Stefan and Yish at the same time?

(Which is a stupid prove anyway because Superman would be fast enough to appear as 2 persons in the room at the same time)

Seriously Stefan, I like the effort you put into everything you do. I try to be as correct as you when I put stuff online, but it is plane to see I don't always succeed.

 

[Lucas Garron]

Also, Stefan, do you really expect us to believe he was that careless in creating a scramble? It's easy to get a 25-mover out of Cube Explorer:
R2 F2 U' F2 U R2 U B2 R2 B2 R D R2 B D' U2 F' U' B D' L' B R2 L' D'
That took me, like, two minutes...

You obviously made "Yish" (whoever he is, if he's real and not you) use a bad "easily generated" scramble to use as further evidence.


(And if anyone is about to accuse all three of us together, I have this uncounterable defense argument: Yarholsky!)