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Hey Guys,
What do you define as a lucky solve?
Thanks

Skipping more then 20% of a solve, unless you force it. I believe that is the general consensus around here.

So if I got an accidental extended cross?

Lucky.

And Matt, isn't it considered lucky if you skip a step that is less than 20% likely to have a skip on that step? For example: Skipping orientation of corners is 1/27, so if you skip that it's lucky.
If it was 25% chance of skipping corners and you skipped them, it wouldn't be lucky.
 
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Hey Guys,
What do you define as a lucky solve?
Thanks

Skipping more then 20% of a solve, unless you force it. I believe that is the general consensus around here.

So if I got an accidental extended cross?

Lucky.

And Matt, isn't it considered lucky if you skip a step that is less than 20% likely to have a skip on that step? For example: Skipping orientation of corners is 1/27, so if you skip that it's lucky.
If it was 25% chance of skipping corners and you skipped them, it wouldn't be lucky.

You misunderstood what I said. If the step is 20% or more of the solve that you skip, it is lucky. It has nothing to do with what the percentage of skipping the step is. So basically any step that you skip, unless you force it, means that the solve should be called lucky.
 
Hey Guys,
What do you define as a lucky solve?
Thanks

Skipping more then 20% of a solve, unless you force it. I believe that is the general consensus around here.

So if I got an accidental extended cross?

Lucky.

And Matt, isn't it considered lucky if you skip a step that is less than 20% likely to have a skip on that step? For example: Skipping orientation of corners is 1/27, so if you skip that it's lucky.
If it was 25% chance of skipping corners and you skipped them, it wouldn't be lucky.

You misunderstood what I said. If the step is 20% or more of the solve that you skip, it is lucky. It has nothing to do with what the percentage of skipping the step is. So basically any step that you skip, unless you force it, means that the solve should be called lucky.
No, if half the time you would skip the step, it is not considered lucky.

Read this:
A lucky record is any solve of a puzzle where a step of your normal solution is skipped.
There are three exceptions:
1) You worked for it, f.i. by anticipating the next step.
2) The chance to skip the step is 20 percent or more.
3) The skipped step represents 3 percent or less of the total moves of the complete solution.
Example: if you use the cross/F2L/OLL/PLL system, then there are 7 steps, and skipping one of the steps would be a lucky case.

For blindfold solving a lucky case is defined by:
1) more than 5 corners are correctly oriented, or
2) more than 8 edges are correctly oriented, or
3) more than 3 corners are correctly positioned, or
4) more than 4 edges are correctly positioned.

For 3x3 we have a lucky case category.
 
Hey Guys,
What do you define as a lucky solve?
Thanks

Skipping more then 20% of a solve, unless you force it. I believe that is the general consensus around here.

So if I got an accidental extended cross?

Lucky.

And Matt, isn't it considered lucky if you skip a step that is less than 20% likely to have a skip on that step? For example: Skipping orientation of corners is 1/27, so if you skip that it's lucky.
If it was 25% chance of skipping corners and you skipped them, it wouldn't be lucky.

You misunderstood what I said. If the step is 20% or more of the solve that you skip, it is lucky. It has nothing to do with what the percentage of skipping the step is. So basically any step that you skip, unless you force it, means that the solve should be called lucky.

Nah I understood what you said, you misunderstood me :P
I'm saying I didn't skip any steps because I didn't skip the cross, the F2L, the OLL or the PLL. Therefore the only "step" I skipped would be one F2L pair and one F2L pair couldn't be 20% of the whole solve.
 
Hey Guys,
What do you define as a lucky solve?
Thanks

Skipping more then 20% of a solve, unless you force it. I believe that is the general consensus around here.

So if I got an accidental extended cross?

Lucky.

And Matt, isn't it considered lucky if you skip a step that is less than 20% likely to have a skip on that step? For example: Skipping orientation of corners is 1/27, so if you skip that it's lucky.
If it was 25% chance of skipping corners and you skipped them, it wouldn't be lucky.

You misunderstood what I said. If the step is 20% or more of the solve that you skip, it is lucky. It has nothing to do with what the percentage of skipping the step is. So basically any step that you skip, unless you force it, means that the solve should be called lucky.

Nah I understood what you said, you misunderstood me :P
I'm saying I didn't skip any steps because I didn't skip the cross, the F2L, the OLL or the PLL. Therefore the only "step" I skipped would be one F2L pair and one F2L pair couldn't be 20% of the whole solve.

I was talking to Tim, not you :p. Those rules that Tim found are correct, go by them.
 
Hey Guys,
What do you define as a lucky solve?
Thanks

Skipping more then 20% of a solve, unless you force it. I believe that is the general consensus around here.

So if I got an accidental extended cross?

Lucky.

And Matt, isn't it considered lucky if you skip a step that is less than 20% likely to have a skip on that step? For example: Skipping orientation of corners is 1/27, so if you skip that it's lucky.
If it was 25% chance of skipping corners and you skipped them, it wouldn't be lucky.

You misunderstood what I said. If the step is 20% or more of the solve that you skip, it is lucky. It has nothing to do with what the percentage of skipping the step is. So basically any step that you skip, unless you force it, means that the solve should be called lucky.

Nah I understood what you said, you misunderstood me :P
I'm saying I didn't skip any steps because I didn't skip the cross, the F2L, the OLL or the PLL. Therefore the only "step" I skipped would be one F2L pair and one F2L pair couldn't be 20% of the whole solve.

I was talking to Tim, not you :p. Those rules that Tim found are correct, go by them.

Ohhhh. lol sorry Matt.
Oh well I don't care if it was lucky or not.
It would have been like the luckiest non-lucky case I would ever get.
Quick extended cross, Easy F2l, OLL was F, R, U, R', U', F' ie. the easiest OLL possible and Y Perm.
17.50 seconds btw. (Only my seconds sub-20)
YAY!!!
 
Hey Guys,
What do you define as a lucky solve?
Thanks

Skipping more then 20% of a solve, unless you force it. I believe that is the general consensus around here.

So if I got an accidental extended cross?

Lucky.

And Matt, isn't it considered lucky if you skip a step that is less than 20% likely to have a skip on that step? For example: Skipping orientation of corners is 1/27, so if you skip that it's lucky.
If it was 25% chance of skipping corners and you skipped them, it wouldn't be lucky.

You misunderstood what I said. If the step is 20% or more of the solve that you skip, it is lucky. It has nothing to do with what the percentage of skipping the step is. So basically any step that you skip, unless you force it, means that the solve should be called lucky.

Nah I understood what you said, you misunderstood me :P
I'm saying I didn't skip any steps because I didn't skip the cross, the F2L, the OLL or the PLL. Therefore the only "step" I skipped would be one F2L pair and one F2L pair couldn't be 20% of the whole solve.

I was talking to Tim, not you :p. Those rules that Tim found are correct, go by them.

Ohhhh. lol sorry Matt.
Oh well I don't care if it was lucky or not.
It would have been like the luckiest non-lucky case I would ever get.
Quick extended cross, Easy F2l, OLL was F, R, U, R', U', F' ie. the easiest OLL possible and Y Perm.
17.50 seconds btw. (Only my seconds sub-20)
YAY!!!

wow, nice solve!
 
Hey Guys,
What do you define as a lucky solve?
Thanks

Skipping more then 20% of a solve, unless you force it. I believe that is the general consensus around here.

So if I got an accidental extended cross?

Lucky.

And Matt, isn't it considered lucky if you skip a step that is less than 20% likely to have a skip on that step? For example: Skipping orientation of corners is 1/27, so if you skip that it's lucky.
If it was 25% chance of skipping corners and you skipped them, it wouldn't be lucky.

You misunderstood what I said. If the step is 20% or more of the solve that you skip, it is lucky. It has nothing to do with what the percentage of skipping the step is. So basically any step that you skip, unless you force it, means that the solve should be called lucky.

Nah I understood what you said, you misunderstood me :P
I'm saying I didn't skip any steps because I didn't skip the cross, the F2L, the OLL or the PLL. Therefore the only "step" I skipped would be one F2L pair and one F2L pair couldn't be 20% of the whole solve.

I was talking to Tim, not you :p. Those rules that Tim found are correct, go by them.

Ohhhh. lol sorry Matt.
Oh well I don't care if it was lucky or not.
It would have been like the luckiest non-lucky case I would ever get.
Quick extended cross, Easy F2l, OLL was F, R, U, R', U', F' ie. the easiest OLL possible and Y Perm.
17.50 seconds btw. (Only my seconds sub-20)
YAY!!!

wow, nice solve!

Thanks.
For me it is :)
 
Thanks.
For me it is :)
now you need to change your signature

Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me.
Do you have the scramble? Or did you just randomly scramble it?

Yeah I have the scramble.
Scramble with green front, white top.
F2 Di U2 B Di Ui R2 D B Ri F L D2 U2 Fi L B Li B D L Ri D2 L R
See if you get the same steps as me, ie. extended cross, same pairs, same oll, same pll. :p
 
Thanks.
For me it is :)
now you need to change your signature

Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me.
Do you have the scramble? Or did you just randomly scramble it?

Yeah I have the scramble.
Scramble with green front, white top.
F2 Di U2 B Di Ui R2 D B Ri F L D2 U2 Fi L B Li B D L Ri D2 L R
See if you get the same steps as me, ie. extended cross, same pairs, same oll, same pll. :p
What side cross?
 
Thanks.
For me it is :)
now you need to change your signature

Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me.
Do you have the scramble? Or did you just randomly scramble it?

Yeah I have the scramble.
Scramble with green front, white top.
F2 Di U2 B Di Ui R2 D B Ri F L D2 U2 Fi L B Li B D L Ri D2 L R
See if you get the same steps as me, ie. extended cross, same pairs, same oll, same pll. :p
What side cross?

Cross on the white side.
 
Thanks.
For me it is :)
now you need to change your signature

Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me.
Do you have the scramble? Or did you just randomly scramble it?

Yeah I have the scramble.
Scramble with green front, white top.
F2 Di U2 B Di Ui R2 D B Ri F L D2 U2 Fi L B Li B D L Ri D2 L R
See if you get the same steps as me, ie. extended cross, same pairs, same oll, same pll. :p
What side cross?

Cross on the white side.
ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LL SKIP. NO X-CROSS BUT LL SKIP. EASY PAIRS. 11.98!!!!
LOLOLOL. MATT, IS THAT CONSIDERED LUCKY? (DONT BOTHER ANSWERING)
 
Thanks.
For me it is :)
now you need to change your signature

Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me.
Do you have the scramble? Or did you just randomly scramble it?

Yeah I have the scramble.
Scramble with green front, white top.
F2 Di U2 B Di Ui R2 D B Ri F L D2 U2 Fi L B Li B D L Ri D2 L R
See if you get the same steps as me, ie. extended cross, same pairs, same oll, same pll. :p
What side cross?

Cross on the white side.
ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LL SKIP. NO X-CROSS BUT LL SKIP. EASY PAIRS. 11.98!!!!
LOLOLOL. MATT, IS THAT CONSIDERED LUCKY? (DONT BOTHER ANSWERING)

I am bothered, and [sarcasm] NAH, THAT ISN'T LUCKY AT ALL!!!!! [/sarcasm]
 
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