How fast can one possibly get with 2-look oll/pll?

[Akuma]

I've been cubing for 2-3 months now and I'm getting average of 49 seconds.
I'm still an intermmediate speedcuber at best and I'm using F2L + 2-look OLL + 2-look PLL.

I'm asking you people, what is the barrier for 2-look OLL and 2-look PLL?
I know that the question is very individual and depends on the cuber, but if you do not have an answer, how fast are you with 2-look OLL/2-look PLL?

Cheers.

 

[JTW2007]

I use 2-look OLL and full PLL and I average around 15 sec. I was averaging around 19 when I used 2-look for both.

 

[Weston]

There really is no limit.
But of course you'd never be as fast if you did know full OLL.

 

[guitardude7241]

I just started learning full OLL a little over a month ago. I didn't work on it every day, I learned algorithms maybe 5 times during that period. Full OLL is easy to use once you learn them all. You only have to learn 50, which isn't that much.

 

[Spitfire97]

2-look OLL and full PLL gives me
20
With 2 -Look PLL
24

Not much of a difference

 

[Weston]

i can get sub 15 times with 2 look withouht too much problem since the 2 look algs and recognition is super fast.

 

[Spitfire97]

i can get sub 15 times with 2 look withouht too much problem since the 2 look algs and recognition is super fast.

True but You are THE Westonian

 

[Akuma]

Not much of a difference

Are you trying to discourage me from learning full OLL/PLL?

 

[Kxg]

Not much of a difference

Are you trying to discourage me from learning full OLL/PLL?

You might be discouraged from learning full OLL/PLL at the moment I learnt full PLL after getting sub-35 or so and I'm not touching full OLL until sub-25.

 

[Spitfire97]

Not much of a difference

Are you trying to discourage me from learning full OLL/PLL?

no But according to your sig you shouldnt yet

sub 35 is when you should learn full PLL

the sub 25 full oll

 

[Lt-UnReaL]

I average ~18 with 2 look OLL/2 look PLL...I think there is someone on this forum that averages 13-14 with it, though...

 

[V-te]

But How? Is it the F2l/Cross that's so fast?

 

[josmil1]

Well cross usually takes up 2-3 seconds, 2 look oll 2-5 seconds, 2 look pll is 2-5 seconds...f2l is very fast IF u have great look ahead 10-15 seconds

 

[V-te]

Well cross usually takes up 2-3 seconds, 2 look oll 2-5 seconds, 2 look pll is 2-5 seconds...f2l is very fast IF u have great look ahead 10-15 seconds

I usually do my F2L+Cross in 20 secs, and 10 seconds for last layer. Grrr...
I need to practice more.

 

[JTW2007]

On a bad solve, my F2L is quicker than my LL. Normal is more like:

F2L: 11-12
OLL: 2-5
PLL: ~3

 

[josmil1]

yea wat is your average V-TE? you can still can more time in the last layer but u can gain A LOT of time in f2l and cross.

 

[V-te]

yea wat is your average V-TE? you can still can more time in the last layer but u can gain A LOT of time in f2l and cross.

My average is 30 seconds. And I look at the timer to see where I'm at, and my F2l is done at 20 secs, and it takes me 10 secs for last layer. 2 look OLL and Full PLL. On a good solve, F2l is 15 secs and LL is 10 like always, so I get a 25. (Pb is 22). So I'm not sure if it's the slow LL or the F2l that's slowing me down.

 

[josmil1]

well you can gain about another 2-5 seconds from your last layer...but your f2l can be improved more. Like you said you need more practice

 

[Logan]

Cross ~ 2-3 seconds
F2l ~ 25 seconds
2-Look OLL ~ 5 seconds
2-Look PLL ~ 5-6 seconds (except G-perms (11 seconds)(I use 2-Look to do them btw) GRR)

 

[Akuma]

My F2L takes about 15 seconds on average but I can probably get a lot better.
I haven't been speedcuing for that long but I think I'm getting the hang on look-ahead.
I'm beating my average times day by day now so I don't knwo where I'll hit my limit.

Here's a video of me speedcubing my average:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwyQVWyjPQg