proof that my f2l method isn't crap: F2L solve-15.55 seconds

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CuBeOrDiE said:
how come plz give sugg on improvement

just out of curiousity, how long does you LL take you?
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It involves Religion and therefore I don't think it's a great thing to have in a signature.. Make it whatever you want idc, I was just saying..

My last layer takes.. uhm.. hmm..
Not sure actually, I haven't timed my Fridrich substeps in a while, but I'm guessing around 7 or 8 seconds

Cross.. 2-5
F2L.. 13-15?
LL.. 6-8

= 21-28
Sounds about right idk.. I get a lot of 21's in solves when my F2L is blazing fast.. and I get over 25 when I have to use 2 look OLL (32/57 OLL's)
 
jms_gears1 said:
Believe it or not it is a block building method. Block building is really the only way to solve the cube. Fridrich is even considered block building technically. just more step oriented.
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You might as well call any method 'block building' because you're solving a 3x3x3 block.


CuBeOrDiE said:
No edge orientation doesnt mean 57 OLL's. You can use two-look, and only nine OLL's are needed.
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This was my mistake. No edge orientation means either 57 OLL's or two look. However, with edge orientation, you can avoid both.


CuBeOrDiE said:
It might take six more moves, but it takes that many to orient edges BEFORE finishing f2l usually.
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You forgot about the case where 4 edges are incorrectly oriented, but I'm not so sure whether it makes so much of a difference. However, edge orientation simplifies F2L, making it easier to solve.

CuBeOrDiE said:
If you think only 2 or 3 algs are gonna cut it YOURE WRONG.
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I'm not sure what you meant when you said this, can you clarify?


CuBeOrDiE said:
Its not efficient for FM, but this method isn't so much a FM method as an intro to block building and FM in general(gotta clarify that.)
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I don't understand how a method that you admit is not efficient for fewest moves can be an introduction to fewest moves. Also, this is not an intro to block building. The end result of one of your steps being a 2x2x3 block doesn't make it block building. You're just inserting the edges, which is much less efficient than intuitively building the 2x2x3 block. I'll say it again, your method's not block building.

CuBeOrDiE said:
not quite...bloc building requires more consentration then edge insertion.
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I think connecting pieces that have the same color doesn't require that much concentration.

CuBeOrDiE said:
Edge insertion is simpler because you don't have acorner that must be correctly placed.
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What? I don't understand what you meant to say.


CuBeOrDiE said:
NO! I've tried petrus for over a two months and my method for only a month.PLz stop hating
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Were you really trying hard with Petrus? Also, you said you've tried petrus for "over a two months." Is that a month or two months? I wasn't hating you or your method, I think you're just overreacting. You seem to think that everyone who criticizes your method is a hater. They're just truthfully saying that your method isn't that good. I was doing the same. You seem arrogant though, and I do hate arrogance.



CuBeOrDiE said:
And this method is still kinda block building, just condensed and simplified for BEGGINER BLOCK BZUILDERS
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It's not a beginners' block building method because it's not block building. It doesn't make a transition into block building easier, either.


CuBeOrDiE said:
For my first month of cubing, I was using a broken cube that would pop every other turn, and there was one month were I didn't cube, so I've actually only been cubing for 10 months.
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Err, was that an excuse made just not to look unimpressive to Zaxef? It didn't help.
 
edd5190 said:
jms_gears1 said:
Believe it or not it is a block building method. Block building is really the only way to solve the cube. Fridrich is even considered block building technically. just more step oriented.
Click to expand...

You might as well call any method 'block building' because you're solving a 3x3x3 block.


CuBeOrDiE said:
No edge orientation doesnt mean 57 OLL's. You can use two-look, and only nine OLL's are needed.
Click to expand...
This was my mistake. No edge orientation means either 57 OLL's or two look. However, with edge orientation, you can avoid both.


CuBeOrDiE said:
It might take six more moves, but it takes that many to orient edges BEFORE finishing f2l usually.
Click to expand...
You forgot about the case where 4 edges are incorrectly oriented, but I'm not so sure whether it makes so much of a difference. However, edge orientation simplifies F2L, making it easier to solve.

CuBeOrDiE said:
If you think only 2 or 3 algs are gonna cut it YOURE WRONG.
Click to expand...

I'm not sure what you meant when you said this, can you clarify?


CuBeOrDiE said:
Its not efficient for FM, but this method isn't so much a FM method as an intro to block building and FM in general(gotta clarify that.)
Click to expand...
I don't understand how a method that you admit is not efficient for fewest moves can be an introduction to fewest moves. Also, this is not an intro to block building. The end result of one of your steps being a 2x2x3 block doesn't make it block building. You're just inserting the edges, which is much less efficient than intuitively building the 2x2x3 block. I'll say it again, your method's not block building.

CuBeOrDiE said:
not quite...bloc building requires more consentration then edge insertion.
Click to expand...
I think connecting pieces that have the same color doesn't require that much concentration.

CuBeOrDiE said:
Edge insertion is simpler because you don't have acorner that must be correctly placed.
Click to expand...
What? I don't understand what you meant to say.


CuBeOrDiE said:
NO! I've tried petrus for over a two months and my method for only a month.PLz stop hating
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Were you really trying hard with Petrus? Also, you said you've tried petrus for "over a two months." Is that a month or two months? I wasn't hating you or your method, I think you're just overreacting. You seem to think that everyone who criticizes your method is a hater. They're just truthfully saying that your method isn't that good. I was doing the same. You seem arrogant though, and I do hate arrogance.



CuBeOrDiE said:
And this method is still kinda block building, just condensed and simplified for BEGGINER BLOCK BZUILDERS
Click to expand...
It's not a beginners' block building method because it's not block building. It doesn't make a transition into block building easier, either.


CuBeOrDiE said:
For my first month of cubing, I was using a broken cube that would pop every other turn, and there was one month were I didn't cube, so I've actually only been cubing for 10 months.
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Err, was that an excuse made just not to look unimpressive to Zaxef? It didn't help.
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-Two or three algs are not enough for speedcubing since it's impossible to have an efficient solve with so little algs...unless you have an over-average intelligence and can solve the LL intuitevly or something. You could argue this, but that's my oppinion.

-I don't mean to be arrogant, it's just hard to prove that my method isn't crap without doing so. I don't have anything against you or whatever, it's just that I was writing fast and didn't try to elaborate to much...sorry 'bout that.

-My method is an intro to FM since it introduces some freestyle and a little block building. Please note that it is pointless to learn if you already know Petrus, but if you are a Fridrich user it can introduce you to FM. And this method IS, in a sence block building, just in a unique form.

-Using this or other methods really depends on your style. Personally, I don't like Fridrich(no offense, but I think its to brute-forceish), and I suck at building 1x2x2 blocks quickly, so a came up with ''the begginer's block building method,'' because I like block building but can't do it quickly, and so need a ''begginer'' block building approach. Petrus just isn't for me. If you don't want to use this, you don't have to

-Any more things to say? I would be glad to hear them.Thnxs for giving me a constructive response.
 
Right.. But it's obvious, or so far at least. That no-one else wants to use your method or think that it's worthwhile.

By all means, have a tutorial on your YouTube and use the method yourself though.
 
Yeah well I just went and learned Hiese. Another thing. It's incredible for FMC. Another thing. It doesn't need freestyle commutators, just 3 corner cycles. You could do it with A perms and set up moves if you felt lazy (That comment seemed appropriate due to your approach to blockbuilding).
 
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