9x9?

[4Chan]

I don't understand why this took so long honestly, the patents have been out for YEARS.

With the combined resources of twistypuzzles, and their amazing accomplishments (gigaminx and petaminx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLyFqm4D9tI )....

Surely they could have used the patents from v cubes and created the v cubes independently!!!!

The chinese simply took the initiative.

However..... I have seen the v cubes home from posts on twistypuzzles....
And i really respect their ideas and they gave me amazing customer service multiple times!

And so... I must side with verdes, Even though the means are possible, it makes me sad that verdes is being cheated.

 

[ISuckAtCubing]

so if the V-cube 9 is crappy and some chinese 9x9x9 cube is better and cheaper, you would still buy the V-cube 9?

 

[Feanaro]

I doubt the v-cube 9 will be crappy, I mean their other cubes are amazing so the 9 should be too. I'm going to wait for a V9.

 

[4Chan]

so if the V-cube 9 is crappy and some chinese 9x9x9 cube is better and cheaper, you would still buy the V-cube 9?

This is a very very very tough choice. >.<

I'd side with Verdes no doubt though. V-cubes all the way.

It's brand loyalty. It's why i wear abercrombie and hollister, not because its cheaper and better, but because i like it.

 

[Paul Wagner]

What are the penalties for violating international copyright laws anyway?

Go on google and look up Greek copyright laws?

EDIT: Well what about chinese knock-offs of everything else. People don't complain about there amazing Chinese diy's.
Or their 4x4 knockoffs of Rubik's.
I'm sure Verdes won't let them get away with this so let's not jump to conclusion.
Lastly, we (I) don't know if they are getting compensated for their ideas, Verdes can stand up for himself and
if we complain it won't change a thing. Harsh, but the truth.

DIYs are not a knockoff of a valid patent

Oh well, I shouldn't have said it so confidently then but are the 4x4's a knock-off?

It's brand loyalty. It's why i wear abercrombie and hollister, not because its cheaper and better, but because i like it.

Please don't compare them because it makes you cool to wear hollister, v-cubes don't make you cool.
Because they're is really no difference opposed to regular clothing. Because hollister doesn't represent
anything except the brand, and please, don't use the "Surfing" as an excuse because 99% of people don't buy it for the surf team. Maybe I'm using my own logic but to people who don't wear hollister it really makes people
who do seem like they just want to look like they have a high social class. Now look at a skateboarding shirt because it at least represents a skateboarding team, and not nothing.

 

[jcuber]

Which 4x4s? Mefferts? Eastsheen? C4Y?

 

[Paul Wagner]

Meffert's, and C4U are the same thing. And yes those two.

 

[jcuber]

They aren't the same thing, just the same mech. Just like how chineese 7x7's and v-7's aren't the same thing.

 

[Paul Wagner]

They aren't the same thing, just the same mech. Just like how chineese 7x7's and v-7's aren't the same thing.

Okay, don't tell me that, I have both of them they are the same thing. The chinese 7x7 and V-7 are completely different.

 

[jcuber]

I believe they are legal, because I think the patent has expired. I may be wrong.

 

[daeyoungyoon]

Eh....I don't think I'm ever going to buy anything higher than a 7x7....Might just get it for the collection after it comes out (from verdes.....don't trust the chinese ones) but I wouldn't bother speedsolving with them.

 

[4Chan]

What are the penalties for violating international copyright laws anyway?

Go on google and look up Greek copyright laws?

EDIT: Well what about chinese knock-offs of everything else. People don't complain about there amazing Chinese diy's.
Or their 4x4 knockoffs of Rubik's.
I'm sure Verdes won't let them get away with this so let's not jump to conclusion.
Lastly, we (I) don't know if they are getting compensated for their ideas, Verdes can stand up for himself and
if we complain it won't change a thing. Harsh, but the truth.

DIYs are not a knockoff of a valid patent

Oh well, I shouldn't have said it so confidently then but are the 4x4's a knock-off?

It's brand loyalty. It's why i wear abercrombie and hollister, not because its cheaper and better, but because i like it.

Please don't compare them because it makes you cool to wear hollister, v-cubes don't make you cool.
Because they're is really no difference opposed to regular clothing. Because hollister doesn't represent
anything except the brand, and please, don't use the "Surfing" as an excuse because 99% of people don't buy it for the surf team. Maybe I'm using my own logic but to people who don't wear hollister it really makes people
who do seem like they just want to look like they have a high social class. Now look at a skateboarding shirt because it at least represents a skateboarding team, and not nothing.

Chill dude, seriously.
I was just making a point about brands....

 

[StachuK1992]

I for one would never buy a 9x9 *that had the same device as the v-cubes*.
Ever.

It's just dispicable to support such a thing.

 

[PatrickJameson]

I think people are taking this way too seriously. It's a chinese knockoff, congratulations. It's not like we weren't expecting it. And if they are a reasonable price and come out before the V-9's, I'll definitely get it. V-cubes could take another few years to release the V-9 for all we know, while 9x9's are out there, waiting to be solved. So what if it's a slightly worse quality than the v-cube material, it would be a 9x9, and the only one available.

When V-cubes actually do come out with the V-9, I will be sure to get it as well. Why? To compare it to the knockoff to see which I like better and to have it as part of my collection. I just find it quite ridiculous that people are going to these great lengths to attempt to bring down this company that is making the knockoff.

 

[Paul Wagner]

I second that.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

sigh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patents#Rationale

 

[DcF1337]

I personally would feel good if I bought only the original V-Cubes, but darn, isn't it tempting? When's Verdes going to release more V-Cubes anyway?

 

[lala47]

i think many people don't get one thing (i'm not all "pro-KO" so that you know), from my point of view, buying a knockoff product, is not necessarily harmful, for example, if you already own the original product, you may want to buy a knockoff for collecting purposes, or in this specific case you may buy the knockoff since the original product is not even being produced, and then buy the original once it comes out. there are some examples in which this is even legal, like game ROMs, if you, for example, have an Snes emulator, and play a game you ALREADY OWN, it is perfectly legal. or if you download a song after buying the CD, in all of those cases, there is no harm done. I will insist in this, as long as you get the original product, i consider you ethically entitled to get a knockoff.

 

[Rubixcubematt]

It's an illegal chinese knockoff
If you buy it, you support criminals
Also, I have my doubts as to the quality

lol...why are they "criminals" again...?
You guys support Verdes too much.

Just shut up now and we won't completely destroy you.

lol, wonderful. I'm just saying that it doesn't really matter if people buy those chinese knock offs or not. Verdes will still make money

how will he make money when people are buying the knock-off 9x9 and not his????

 

[imaghost]

It's an illegal chinese knockoff
If you buy it, you support criminals
Also, I have my doubts as to the quality

lol...why are they "criminals" again...?
You guys support Verdes too much.

Just shut up now and we won't completely destroy you.

lol, wonderful. I'm just saying that it doesn't really matter if people buy those chinese knock offs or not. Verdes will still make money

how will he make money when people are buying the knock-off 9x9 and not his????

Because people will still buy from Verdes, which is why so many people support him and not the knock-offs. Not everybody will buy the knock-off just because one person said they will. Rubik's brand still makes money even though there are knock-offs of the 3x3. Yet nobody complains that Rubik's is losing money because one person bought a DIY off-brand cube.