Meffert's now selling the Holey Megaminx

[cmhardw]

What about rotating around an edge or corner?

Ok I'm at home and have my megaminx.

Flipping about an edge:
Performs 14 disjoint 2-cycles on edges and leaves 2 edges in place. This is an overall even permutation.
Performs 10 disjoint 2-cycles on corners for an overall net even permutation on corners.

No parity error is created here.

Rotating about a corner:
Performs 10 disjoint 3-cycles on edges. This is an overall even permutation.
Performs 6 disjoint 3-cycles on corners, and leaves 2 corners in place. This is an overall net even permutation on corners.

No parity error is created here.

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The Holey Megaminx has no parity error.

Chris

 

[TMOY]

There are no other ways to do cube rotations other than rotating about an axis perpendicular to two parallel layers, so all ways of "cycling" centers will not create a parity error in either corners or edges.

What about rotating around an edge or corner?

You can break such rotations as follows:
around UF edge: 3 72° CW rotations about axis through U then L then F;
around UFL corner, CW: 2 72° CW rotations about axis through U then L.
Chris is right, rotations about an axis perpendicular to two parallel layers generate all direct isometries of the dodecahedron.

 

[panyan]

if only they did a one colour version, i would have been right in there!

 

[hr.mohr]

I'm SO getting one!

I just hope that they use some better glue on the tiles this time. Their last batch of megaminx's used some very weak glue.

 

[Stefan]

Well, I'm also sure you don't have a brain. lol

Implying that someone doesn't have a brain because there cubing knowledge is not up to par with yours just makes you "go down hill".

He didn't say the guy doesn't have a brain. He said he "was sure" he doesn't have one. And LOLed. And started with "Well,". The whole line was a parody (*). I think he didn't mock him for his limited knowledge, but for his bold conclusion. If you post a guess without understanding what you're talking about just hoping that you're right so others are impressed you said it first, you have to expect others laughing at you.

(*) And btw I consider it unethical to remove the guy's statement when you quoted so that the parody aspect got hidden.

 

[soccerking813]

If meffert's is starting to sell this "holey megaminx", does it mean they may start to sell their normal megaminx sometime soon?

 

[ender9994]

Well, I'm also sure you don't have a brain. lol

Implying that someone doesn't have a brain because there cubing knowledge is not up to par with yours just makes you "go down hill".

He didn't say the guy doesn't have a brain. He said he "was sure" he doesn't have one. And LOLed. And started with "Well,". The whole line was a parody (*). I think he didn't mock him for his limited knowledge, but for his bold conclusion. If you post a guess without understanding what you're talking about just hoping that you're right so others are impressed you said it first, you have to expect others laughing at you.

(*) And btw I consider it unethical to remove the guy's statement when you quoted so that the parody aspect got hidden.

Well, then I guess I have no sense of humor. Maybe if happen to take a vacation I will work on that. LOL does seem to be very overused though. I reacted that way because I have seen someone demoralize and destroy someone on another forum, and put "lol" at the end; he wasn't actaully joking though.

On topic: I just sent in my email for them to remind me when it comes out!

 

[Stefan]

LOL does seem to be very overused though.

True. And again: That lol wasn't his, it was copied as part of the parody (at least that's my understanding). Here's the proper quote including the original that you removed:

well, the void cube does... so i'm sure this one does too. lol

Well, I'm also sure you don't have a brain. lol

Don't you see how intentionally similar that is? Don't know about you, but to me that looks like saying "Ok let me just state something false without any proper reasoning behind it, exactly like you did". It's not even an insult at all. Though in case I'm wrong, apologies for putting words in his mouth.

 

[AvGalen]

LOL does seem to be very overused though.

True. And again: That lol wasn't his, it was copied as part of the parody (at least that's my understanding). Here's the proper quote including the original that you removed:

well, the void cube does... so i'm sure this one does too. lol

Well, I'm also sure you don't have a brain. lol

Don't you see how intentionally similar that is? Don't know about you, but to me that looks like saying "Ok let me just state something false without any proper reasoning behind it, exactly like you did". It's not even an insult at all. Though in case I'm wrong, apologies for putting words in his mouth.

Well, I'm sure you are wrong. lol rolleyes: for those that need smileys to understand when something is meant to be sarcastic)

 

[04mucklowd]

If meffert's is starting to sell this "holey megaminx", does it mean they may start to sell their normal megaminx sometime soon?

One would hope...

 

[Erik]

Void puzzles have such a brilliant idea: on the place where there is normally plastic there is now air, and because of this air people want to buy it!
So in fact they are selling 'gebakken lucht' (dutch for: fried air)
Still I'll probably end up wanting to have one

 

[AvGalen]

Void puzzles have such a brilliant idea: on the place where there is normally plastic there is now air, and because of this air people want to buy it!
So in fact they are selling 'gebakken lucht' (dutch for: fried air)
Still I'll probably end up wanting to have one

Less....is more!
(also: free shipping from Mefferts!)

 

[soccerking813]

Anyone want to make a bet on how long it will be until there are cheap ripoffs of it?

 

[Deleted member 2864]

I don't see the point other than the looks...
It doesn't have parity, making it pretty much a megaminx...
It will probably turn worse fromt he mech
It won't cut corners well if it's like the void cube...

But I still want one since I'm obssesed with the megaminx since I got it 3 days ago

 

[Ton]

It's the void cube version of the megaminx! And it's actually cheaper than the real version, so I might get this one instead. But it probably turns much worse. I wonder if it has parity?

I see only even parities possible on the (hollow) minx, so the 12 color has no parity,the 6 color does, because it has two same color pieces

 

[cmhardw]

I see only even parities possible on the (hollow) minx, so the 12 color has no parity,the 6 color does, because it has two same color pieces

Yes Ton good point. I think previous posts saying there is no parity on the void megaminx were too general. Your statement should be the most correct.

Chris

 

[qqwref]

I think it's a really cool idea. I've wanted a void minx for quite a while.

Also, if you don't have a problem with taking it apart, you can make a mod that will only have six sides (all of which turn normally of course, it's basically the same as <U,L,F,R,BR,BL> on megaminx), thus making yourself a puzzle hat.

Furthermore, I would like to see the first person to make an "impossible object" out of this - assemble a cube inside it, so that the cube is too big to take out, but small enough that you can solve it without taking the void minx cage apart

 

[Hadley4000]

Furthermore, I would like to see the first person to make an "impossible object" out of this - assemble a cube inside it, so that the cube is too big to take out, but small enough that you can solve it without taking the void minx cage apart

That would officially rupture my mind

 

[Ton]

It's the void cube version of the megaminx! And it's actually cheaper than the real version, so I might get this one instead. But it probably turns much worse. I wonder if it has parity?

I see only even permutation possible on the (hollow) minx, so the 12 color has no parity,the 6 color does, because it has two same color pieces

 

[rjohnson_8ball]

Furthermore, I would like to see the first person to make an "impossible object" out of this - assemble a cube inside it, so that the cube is too big to take out, but small enough that you can solve it without taking the void minx cage apart

THAT would be an amazing puzzle.

Maybe a 30 mm (large key chain size) cube could fit. Probably a 19 mm (small key chain size) cube could fit.