Creationism vs. evolution

[4Chan]

How do you know it's a 4th dimensional being and not a 27.3-dimensional being?

Cause there are only 10 possible dimensions, the 10th being a dot containing all possible events, series, universes, etc. but your point is well taken. It would actually be more sensible cause they would have an even higher mastery of our world and even greater ability to manipulate our evolution, skipping the trial and error part. check out this youtube video though, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
It explains the dimensional possibilities and such

Hahahaha, i beat you to it.

 

[Mike Hughey]

Whatever you believe, creationism has no place in a science classroom. Teach what you want in religion class (and give equal consideration of creation myths of other major systems of belief, of course), but don't teach that kind of irrational nonsense in a biology class.

What's next, horoscopes in astronomy class?

I knew I'd be able to find it if I searched; after all, we live in the USA.
Horoscopes in Astronomy Class
(see the short term assignments at the end)

In fairness, it looks like it's probably just an opportunity to debunk it, but it still looks like a fair amount of work and a waste of time to me, so I don't think that totally excuses it.

 

[Davey Boy]

Hahahaha, i beat you to it.

Damn...I fail.

 

[shelley]

How do you know it's a 4th dimensional being and not a 27.3-dimensional being?

Cause there are only 10 possible dimensions, the 10th being a dot containing all possible events, series, universes, etc. but your point is well taken. It would actually be more sensible cause they would have an even higher mastery of our world and even greater ability to manipulate our evolution, skipping the trial and error part. check out this youtube video though, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
[EDIT] or just watch it in the post directly above this...
It explains the dimensional possibilities and such

According to our current understanding of the universe, sure. But if you're going to throw that out the window and invent new beings and concepts we don't have evidence for, why not throw in a few extra dozen dimensions while you're at it?

I know this was only your opinion and all, but your usage of "there is" implies a degree of certainty that really shouldn't be there.

 

[IamWEB]

Why not both?

Ex: God created mankind, and from thereon they slowly evolved.

Whenever someone tells me they don't believe evolution I reply, "So, are you telling me that your god was too lame to create evolution? Evolution is too hard for your god?"

There is nothing about a belief in evolution that must imply that god doesn't exist.

Saying crap like what you quoted is what gets real-life arguments started. I typically don't get involved in these type of threads, and don't really want to, but that's tempting.

Too lame to create evolution? Too hard? PLEASE tell me you say that in joking voice... unless some die-hard-Jesus-runs-my-life-nothing-else gets in your face... then it's understandable

But that last statement, yeah that's actually true. Never thought of that, but I don't ever think of this subject much... almost never discuss it.

 

[Dene]

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Logan]

What my problem is is that I need a logical answer for everything. Religion doesn't have that. So even though I go to church and youth group, I still don't believe in God. My logical answer for what happens when we die is that we "black out". We don't think, breath, talk, hear, remember, etc. Our brain shuts down. So for us it doesn't suck, it just..... is. What sucks is having to think this every night not knowing if you will ever wake up. That is EXTREMELY STRESSFUL!!! Especially being a 13 year old trying to get 100% in every class, freaking out when you get an A- on an assignment, because you don't want to be a dieing homeless man living in the streets. That would bring you closer to the "blacking out" at the end of your life.


*sigh* I'm so confused and scared.

 

[Davey Boy]

According to our current understanding of the universe, sure. But if you're going to throw that out the window and invent new beings and concepts we don't have evidence for, why not throw in a few extra dozen dimensions while you're at it?

I know this was only your opinion and all, but your usage of "there is" implies a degree of certainty that really shouldn't be there.

That video bases the 10 dimensions off of the 3 we as humans are certain of (length width and height), and the 4th ('time'), which we semi-dabble in. If you wish there to be no certainty at all, then how did I make it up, implying it isn't real? If there is no certainty nothing can be made up, because that means its untrue which cannot be proven. I did not throw anything out the window (to my knowledge), there are 3rd dimensional beings, that is proof enough of a possibility of beings that exist in any dimension, including the 4th.

{EDIT}
Also, my brother turned me onto a book entitled flatland that helps show this theory, sort of. Its about us not understanding the 4th dimension, change understanding to understanding beings and it still fits soundly. Thanks for the nit picking, it helps lots.

 

[Erik]

*sits back in a lazy chair from friends, grabs some pizza and beer enough to survive on for 2 months and enjoys the show*

 

[JBCM627]

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

*sits back in a lazy chair from friends, grabs some pizza and beer enough to survive on for 2 months and enjoys the show*

 

[Davey Boy]

What my problem is is that I need a logical answer for everything. Religion doesn't have that. So even though I go to church and youth group, I still don't believe in God. My logical answer for what happens when we die is that we "black out". We don't think, breath, talk, hear, remember, etc. Our brain shuts down. So for us it doesn't suck, it just..... is. What sucks is having to think this every night not knowing if you will ever wake up. That is EXTREMELY STRESSFUL!!! Especially being a 13 year old trying to get 100% in every class, freaking out when you get an A- on an assignment, because you don't want to be a dieing homeless man living in the streets. That would bring you closer to the "blacking out" at the end of your life.


*sigh* I'm so confused and scared.

I recommend you chill out, you have your whole life and a single A- at 13 years old is not a life altering thing, honestly, nor is failing high school because many years are available to recover from that. The latter is for sure a huge disadvantage though and not recommended.

 

[4Chan]

According to our current understanding of the universe, sure. But if you're going to throw that out the window and invent new beings and concepts we don't have evidence for, why not throw in a few extra dozen dimensions while you're at it?

I know this was only your opinion and all, but your usage of "there is" implies a degree of certainty that really shouldn't be there.

That video bases the 10 dimensions off of the 3 we as humans are certain of (length width and height), and the 4th ('time'), which we semi-dabble in. If you wish there to be no certainty at all, then how did I make it up, implying it isn't real? If there is no certainty nothing can be made up, because that means its untrue which cannot be proven. I did not throw anything out the window (to my knowledge), there are 3rd dimensional beings, that is proof enough of a possibility of beings that exist in any dimension, including the 4th.

{EDIT}
Also, my brother turned me onto a book entitled flatland that helps show this theory, sort of. Its about us not understanding the 4th dimension, change understanding to understanding beings and it still fits soundly. Thanks for the nit picking, it helps lots.

Crappp, flame?

You argued with Stefan, and now Shelley?
I concur with Erik, this will make for an interesting spectacle indeed.

 

[shelley]

My nitpick was your statement that "there is" a higher power living in the 4th dimension. While that's certainly possible, you don't know that. "There could be" or "there might be" would be a more diplomatic way to describe an opinion based on no evidence whatsoever.

Of course, all this talk of higher dimensions is off topic anyway. There's no need to invoke 4th dimensional beings to understand biological evolution.

 

[Siraj A.]

*sits back in a lazy chair from friends, grabs some pizza and beer enough to survive on for 2 months and enjoys the show*

zomgz.

 

[PatrickJameson]

http://www.wimp.com/atheistgod/

I'll just leave this here.

 

[DavidWoner]

How do you know it's a 4th dimensional being and not a 27.3-dimensional being?

Cause there are only 10 possible dimensions, the 10th being a dot containing all possible events, series, universes, etc. but your point is well taken. It would actually be more sensible cause they would have an even higher mastery of our world and even greater ability to manipulate our evolution, skipping the trial and error part. check out this youtube video though, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA
[EDIT] or just watch it in the post directly above this...
It explains the dimensional possibilities and such

According to our current understanding of the universe, sure. But if you're going to throw that out the window and invent new beings and concepts we don't have evidence for, why not throw in a few extra dozen dimensions while you're at it?

I know this was only your opinion and all, but your usage of "there is" implies a degree of certainty that really shouldn't be there.

Dude, you can't refer to a youtube video as your basis for scientific information and expect people to take you seriously.

*sits back in a lazy chair from friends, grabs some pizza and beer enough to survive on for 2 months and enjoys the show*

Surely there is room for one more? Sharing is what brothers do, after all.

 

[beingforitself]

[DISAGREES WITH OPINION AND ASSERTS DOMINANCE OF OWN VIEWPOINT, BRANDING OTHERS AS IDIOTS]

 

[Ethan Rosen]

FUR IS MURDER
LEGALIZE WEED
DON'T TAZE ME BRO

 

[Stefan]

I love this kind of thread. I'll tell you why in early August I think.

 

[IamWEB]

Save me 2 slices Erik, and I'll buy the next one. I'm a minor, though, so do you have any Coke? I'll buy more when you run out.