Dutch Open 2007

Mike: I lost the multi-blind National Record to Ton. Multi-blind was almost impossible because of all the noise. Single blind were very hard scrambles (8 mis-oriented edges, 7 mis-oriented corners, 3-2-2 cycles for corners, 4-4-3 cycles for edges) but the conditions were very good (silent audience, middle of day, >3 hours of sleep the night before)

Guus: I have the scramble for Fewest Moves at home. I will try to post it tonight. I spent to much time on a good F2L again (found something nice, wrote it down wrong, spent 30 minutes finding it again) and DNF-ed. There was a good beginning with both the regular and inverse scramble. Clément Gallet won with a pseudo 2x2x3-block.

And I did very well in the second day. I think I broke my 3x3x3 average both times, as well as my 4x4x4 and 5x5x5 average. And I had a sub 2:20 5x5x5 solve.

Erik got a black Olympic 5x5x5 cube that looks and feels a lot like an Eastsheen, but turns a little better. It has to be broken in though.
 
Nothing to add... congratulations to Erik, first to manage to beat the world record and secondly to be very humble (like "no, I was just lucky, it was a PLL skip...").
 
Yeah, congratz Erik!

I tought that the 9.86 just could be beaten with another lucky solve...and it was :D haha

but...I think it is posible to beat that with non-lucky solve(s)...just the right scramble, right person, right day...

some people did better than that at home, without lucky...so...
 
Yeah, congratz Erik!

I tought that the 9.86 just could be beaten with another lucky solve...and it was :D haha

but...I think it is posible to beat that with non-lucky solve(s)...just the right scramble, right person, right day...

some people did better than that at home, without lucky...so...

It is certainly possible. the 9.90 of Edouard Chambon isn't a lucky solve, so...
 
Yeah, congratz Erik!

I tought that the 9.86 just could be beaten with another lucky solve...and it was :D haha

but...I think it is posible to beat that with non-lucky solve(s)...just the right scramble, right person, right day...

some people did better than that at home, without lucky...so...

It is certainly possible. the 9.90 of Edouard Chambon isn't a lucky solve, so...

That is debatable:

i entered the last pair with the F face
that skipped me the OLL
you can consider that as lucky

If it wasn't lucky, it was at least very fortunate.
 
that way of inserting is only affecting the edges if i think of it correctly. there are 8 different orientation cases for the corners (solved state already included), so i think when you insert the pair the zbf2l way (orienting LL corners while solving last f2l pair) you have 1/8 chance of an oll skip.
please correct me if im wrong, thanks :)
 
That was in the thread about the solve... It is 1/27, because there is a one in three chance a corner will be oriented, which means one in nine of two oriented, and one in 27 of three oriented and then the fourth one must be correct.
 
Johannes or someone should come up with some mathematical equation to figure out the chances.
The chances to get an OLL skip is 1:3x3x3x2x2x2 = 1:216
The chances to get a PLL skip is 1:4x3x3x2 =1:72
The chance to get an CO skip is 1:3x3x3=1:27
The chance to get an EO skip is 1:2x2x2=1:8 (and Zbigniew Zborowski knows all 1 step LL algs to handle these!)
I think many world-top-25 cubers already had many lucky cases and Erik is now the fastest. I guess that the single solve world record will only be broken by another lucky case.

Sometimes lucky cases are in the beginning of a solve but of you see the other solve-times of that same world-record round there was no luck at the beginning.
 
Johannes or someone should come up with some mathematical equation to figure out the chances.
The chances to get an OLL skip is 1:3x3x3x2x2x2 = 1:216
The chances to get a PLL skip is 1:4x3x3x2 =1:72
The chance to get an CO skip is 1:3x3x3=1:27
The chance to get an EO skip is 1:2x2x2=1:8 (and Zbigniew Zborowski knows all 1 step LL algs to handle these!)
I think many world-top-25 cubers already had many lucky cases and Erik is now the fastest. I guess that the single solve world record will only be broken by another lucky case.

Sometimes lucky cases are in the beginning of a solve but of you see the other solve-times of that same world-record round there was no luck at the beginning.

That last thing was maybe because I started on yellow, though I'm not sure I did... Opposite colour solving for president :p
 
Johannes or someone should come up with some mathematical equation to figure out the chances.
The chances to get an OLL skip is 1:3x3x3x2x2x2 = 1:216
The chances to get a PLL skip is 1:4x3x3x2 =1:72
The chance to get an CO skip is 1:3x3x3=1:27
The chance to get an EO skip is 1:2x2x2=1:8 (and Zbigniew Zborowski knows all 1 step LL algs to handle these!)
I think many world-top-25 cubers already had many lucky cases and Erik is now the fastest. I guess that the single solve world record will only be broken by another lucky case.

Sometimes lucky cases are in the beginning of a solve but of you see the other solve-times of that same world-record round there was no luck at the beginning.

what about inserting the last pair in another way? doesn't that change anything at all?
 
I think the chance is still the same, because that stat is figured by possible combinations, not doing the move RUR'. There would have to be a different calculation for a particular insert, and then someone relating that to the other one. I'm not sure how to go about doing this, but I think that's what you would have to do to compare different inserts.
 
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