[Stealth Mode] How would I wish to deal in public with my UF5 and letter quads efforts given a chance

[Deleted member 36445]

Daniel Naroditsky

He is a very sensitive chess player. He had to handle a lot of misinformation and hate from the community and a former world champion itself. A lot more people should have defended his chess skills, and the people who wanted to bring Daniel down should have thought of the consequences as the offense is as big as murder.

I have in no way encountered that level of hate and I hope not. But I have faced a lot of hate for doing work on UF5 algset, which I think was very hard to avoid. I believe if I belonged to a different nationality the hate intensity would be been lesser for sure. I know that I am an honest cuber, I understand my limitations in lack of skill and lack of time. But it was a tough experience to face such hate from the western community from 2019 with no defense for me, as the blindsolving community is small and majorly dominated by the West.

I feel I should be careful about myself and not turn out to be like Daniel. I need to make sure people check on me frequently and keep a hard skin for the baseless accusations, cubers with more free time throw at me.

The west however have been successful in reducing my willpower by constant hate and defamation. I understand it is just my mindset which limits me and I need to overcome it before my willpower to do good quality blindsolving lessens even more.

Disclaimer: I am not playing the victim card here. Voicing my opinion should be allowed with mockery and defamation. If you do not want to encourage my style of blindsolving you can always block me and live on with your short lived blindsolving career.

I don't want to sound rude or insensitive, just asking:

Do you get support and praises for your method from the East cubing community?

Chess and any competitive communities, no matter if is not as competitive as chess (like cubing) can have toxic people, immature kids and bullies. Don't expect that to change, my friend, maybe would be better to understand from who you want to have praises from.

Jesus didn't please everyone.

 

[Cubist-Guitar]

Daniel Naroditsky

He was a very sensitive chess player. He had to handle a lot of misinformation and hate from the community and a former world champion itself. A lot more people should have defended his chess skills, and the people who wanted to bring Daniel down should have thought of the consequences as the offense is as big as murder.

Ok…this is true…Daniel was barraged with misinformation by many people with bad consequences. I’d say book move for this paragraph, nothing in this paragraph is completely false from what I can tell.

I have in no way encountered that level of hate and I hope not. But I have faced a lot of hate for doing work on UF5 algset, which I think was very hard to avoid.

Mega Blunder holy hell. Comparing yourself to Daniel is not only playing the victim, but also is incredibly, incredibly callous and disrespectful so soon to his death. I have no other words to express my disgust.

I believe if I belonged to a different nationality the hate intensity would be been lesser for sure.

I don’t think you being Indian made people hate your idea more, as much as you’d like to believe it.

I know that I am an honest cuber, I understand my limitations in lack of skill and lack of time. But it was a tough experience to face such hate from the western community from 2019 with no defense for me, as the blindsolving community is small and majorly dominated by the West.

Mistake. I do not have much to say about 2019, as I was not involved in the community, but from what I can tell, I do not believe people should be forced to defend an idea (in this case, 5-style) they do not believe in. 5style is a lot of commitment, and even most speedrunners would agree that spending thousands of hours on a strat that saves a similar amount on time would be a waste.

I feel I should be careful about myself and not turn out to be like Daniel. I need to make sure people check on me frequently and keep a hard skin for the baseless accusations, cubers with more free time throw at me.

Confused, what baseless accusations are people throwing at you?

The west however have been successful in reducing my willpower by constant hate and defamation. I understand it is just my mindset which limits me and I need to overcome it before my willpower to do good quality blindsolving lessens even more.

Mistake, You should not be complaining about not having good quality BLD solves. If you would like to be faster at blind solving, then you should focus on getting better at BLD. 5 style has taken a lot of your time (something you and I can agree about), and you haven’t spent much time improving or even keeping steady at cubing. It’s not the West or whatever else you’d like to blame, it’s your own stubbornness that kept you from improving.

Disclaimer: I am not playing the victim card here. Voicing my opinion should be allowed with mockery and defamation. If you do not want to encourage my style of blindsolving you can always block me and live on with your short lived blindsolving career.

If comparing yourself to Daniel isn’t playing the victim, then I’m actually not certain what could be. Also, insulting people slower and less experienced than you for criticizing the valid flaws in your method and attitude is just not ok.
(Also you can’t block mods).

Holy hell. overall, this is not kind, uplifting, or useful. I also feel like this is unacceptable moderator behavior. Mods should be held to a higher standard, something this post does not live up to. Please do better

 

[abunickabhi]

Ok…this is true…Daniel was barraged with misinformation by many people with bad consequences. I’d say book move for this paragraph, nothing in this paragraph is completely false from what I can tell.

Mega Blunder holy hell. Comparing yourself to Daniel is not only playing the victim, but also is incredibly, incredibly callous and disrespectful so soon to his death. I have no other words to express my disgust.

I don’t think you being Indian made people hate your idea more, as much as you’d like to believe it.

Mistake. I do not have much to say about 2019, as I was not involved in the community, but from what I can tell, I do not believe people should be forced to defend an idea (in this case, 5-style) they do not believe in. 5style is a lot of commitment, and even most speedrunners would agree that spending thousands of hours on a strat that saves a similar amount on time would be a waste.

Confused, what baseless accusations are people throwing at you?

Mistake, You should not be complaining about not having good quality BLD solves. If you would like to be faster at blind solving, then you should focus on getting better at BLD. 5 style has taken a lot of your time (something you and I can agree about), and you haven’t spent much time improving or even keeping steady at cubing. It’s not the West or whatever else you’d like to blame, it’s your own stubbornness that kept you from improving.

If comparing yourself to Daniel isn’t playing the victim, then I’m actually not certain what could be. Also, insulting people slower and less experienced than you for criticizing the valid flaws in your method and attitude is just not ok.
(Also you can’t block mods).

Holy hell. overall, this is not kind, uplifting, or useful. I also feel like this is unacceptable moderator behavior. Mods should be held to a higher standard, something this post does not live up to. Please do better

Apologies for voicing what I felt. This is my personal opinion and in no ways am I representing anything while writing the previous post.

I did not compare myself with Dania, I just felt heartbroken that trolls and misinformation can have such an effect on a person.

Apologies for conveying this in an incorrect manner and making you perceive something otherwise.

 

[pTr]

@Cubist-Guitar

What is the point of your post. It gives no value to the contex of this thread. You have been here much longer than I have so you should know that @abunickabhi is no callous in any way. I have known him to be a caring person here on SS.

Also, he wasn't complaining about not havoing good quality BLD sovles. What he said was: "The west has been consistantly hating on me and my work. I need to overcome this or else my modivation and therefor, quality of solves will decrease."

 

[OtaMota]

You have been here much longer than I have so you should know that @abunickabhi is no callous in any way.

You have had more time with person = I know more about them than you?

 

[pTr]

Generally speaking, yes, that is how it works.

 

[OtaMota]

Generally speaking, yes, that is how it works.

Let me rephrase it without the I or You pronouns. Person A has had more time with Person B than Person C did = Person C knows more about Person B than Person A does, is that true?

 

[pTr]

what I said was "A has been here longer than C so A knows B better than C..." at least that's what I thought I said...

 

[L4NC3_D4_AS14N]

Ok…this is true…Daniel was barraged with misinformation by many people with bad consequences. I’d say book move for this paragraph, nothing in this paragraph is completely false from what I can tell.

Mega Blunder holy hell. Comparing yourself to Daniel is not only playing the victim, but also is incredibly, incredibly callous and disrespectful so soon to his death. I have no other words to express my disgust.

I don’t think you being Indian made people hate your idea more, as much as you’d like to believe it.

Mistake. I do not have much to say about 2019, as I was not involved in the community, but from what I can tell, I do not believe people should be forced to defend an idea (in this case, 5-style) they do not believe in. 5style is a lot of commitment, and even most speedrunners would agree that spending thousands of hours on a strat that saves a similar amount on time would be a waste.

Confused, what baseless accusations are people throwing at you?

Mistake, You should not be complaining about not having good quality BLD solves. If you would like to be faster at blind solving, then you should focus on getting better at BLD. 5 style has taken a lot of your time (something you and I can agree about), and you haven’t spent much time improving or even keeping steady at cubing. It’s not the West or whatever else you’d like to blame, it’s your own stubbornness that kept you from improving.

If comparing yourself to Daniel isn’t playing the victim, then I’m actually not certain what could be. Also, insulting people slower and less experienced than you for criticizing the valid flaws in your method and attitude is just not ok.
(Also you can’t block mods).

Holy hell. overall, this is not kind, uplifting, or useful. I also feel like this is unacceptable moderator behavior. Mods should be held to a higher standard, something this post does not live up to. Please do better

I know this is a serious post and I am redirecting the thread, but why did you have use Chess annotations

 

[pTr]

where did he use chess annotations?

 

[pTr]

He said blunder once, I think that's a pretty commonly used term outside of chess.

 

[Deleted member 36445]

I like cheese. specially cheddar

 

[pTr]

so do I

 

[abunickabhi]

@Cubist-Guitar

What is the point of your post. It gives no value to the contex of this thread. You have been here much longer than I have so you should know that @abunickabhi is no callous in any way. I have known him to be a caring person here on SS.

Also, he wasn't complaining about not havoing good quality BLD sovles. What he said was: "The west has been consistantly hating on me and my work. I need to overcome this or else my modivation and therefor, quality of solves will decrease."

I agree that I did not make a safe statement. I have removed it.

I have edited it my comment. I appreciate a lot of cubers around the world and it is bad of me to call out toxic behaviour out of anyone.

 

[Caleb Valenzuela]

Daniel Naroditsky

I am extremely saddened by this news.

He is a very sensitive chess player. He had to handle a lot of misinformation and hate from the community and a former world champion itself. A lot more people should have defended his chess skills, and the people who wanted to bring Daniel down should have thought of the consequences as the offense is as big as murder.

I have in no way encountered that level of hate and I hope not. But I have faced a lot of hate for doing work on UF5 algset, which I think was very hard to avoid. I believe if I belonged to a different nationality the hate intensity would be been lesser for sure. I know that I am an honest cuber, I understand my limitations in lack of skill and lack of time. But it was a tough experience to face such hate from the western community from 2019 with no defense for me, as the blindsolving community is small and majorly dominated by the West.

I feel I should be careful about myself and not turn out to be like Daniel. I need to make sure people check on me frequently and keep a hard skin for the baseless accusations, cubers with more free time throw at me.

The west however have been successful in reducing my willpower by constant hate and defamation. I understand it is just my mindset which limits me and I need to overcome it before my willpower to do good quality blindsolving lessens even more.

Disclaimer: I am not playing the victim card here. Voicing my opinion should be allowed without mockery and defamation. If you do not want to encourage my style of blindsolving you can always block me and live on with your short lived blindsolving career.

Edit: Apologies if it sounded that I compared to Dania with anyone. That was not the intent.

I was very close to his online content and felt he was an excellent teacher. I am going to miss his presence a lot!

I believe that hate and opposition of your doings/work is everywhere in this world. You cannot avoid it, you will have haters. The amount of hate you get is determined by how exposed you are to the public, so proposing a gargantuan alg set like UF5 is bound to receive some hate. Being Indian also most likely did not contribute to the amount of hate you got though. You should have expected hate from the start actually.

I feel like your disclaimer was a bit… aggressive as you mentioned “live on with your short lived blindsolving career”, which isn’t the best behavior you could have displayed, as you are a super moderator after all.

 

[abunickabhi]

I believe that hate and opposition of your doings/work is everywhere in this world. You cannot avoid it, you will have haters. The amount of hate you get is determined by how exposed you are to the public, so proposing a gargantuan alg set like UF5 is bound to receive some hate. Being Indian also most likely did not contribute to the amount of hate you got though. You should have expected hate from the start actually.

I feel like your disclaimer was a bit… aggressive as you mentioned “live on with your short lived blindsolving career”, which isn’t the best behavior you could have displayed, as you are a super moderator after all.

Hmmmm apologies for the remark on the disclaimer. I wish to take back the statement.

I guess staying in the primary attention in any community can lead to some amounts of hate. Some personalities like me take it personally and have a hard time coping with it. I guess I should work on that!

Staying silent and away from the limelight is always a workable solution.

 

[ih8bld]

@Cubist-Guitar

What is the point of your post. It gives no value to the contex of this thread. You have been here much longer than I have so you should know that @abunickabhi is no callous in any way. I have known him to be a caring person here on SS.

Also, he wasn't complaining about not havoing good quality BLD sovles. What he said was: "The west has been consistantly hating on me and my work. I need to overcome this or else my modivation and therefor, quality of solves will decrease."

What is the point of your post? You do realize that people can have both good and bad side, it's not black and white, right?. Yes, Abhijeet does contribute a lot to keeping SS forum active and helping in local competitions.

That does not take anything away from the fact that he has terrorized the BLD community for many years now by lying to many people about his progress in 5style to get attention and personally insulting people who have worked on 5style as "jobless". You can search his post history on SS here yourself even, there are still posts where he claims to know 6000+ 5style algs well (1.5 times of 1LLL) while never providing proof of it and misleading local Indian kids who don't know anything about BLD to realize it's all BS.

Is it wrong for people to hate lying, misleading and dishonesty in the BLD community? The only reason he blames the west for it is to act like the victim. The only reason that the "non-west" countries don't call him out on his BS is that most of them stay in their own communities and/or do not speak and interact in English.

If the Chinese/Korean/Japanese cubing communities know what Abhijeet has done I am certain they will hate him too. Heck, even most of the top Indian BLDers are fully aware of Abhijeet's BS and are not defending him just because he is Indian too.

 

[ih8bld]

Great post, you said a lot of what BLDers who have had to put up with his BS for many years really want to say.

Mistake. I do not have much to say about 2019, as I was not involved in the community, but from what I can tell, I do not believe people should be forced to defend an idea (in this case, 5-style) they do not believe in. 5style is a lot of commitment, and even most speedrunners would agree that spending thousands of hours on a strat that saves a similar amount on time would be a waste.

Obviously no one is going to believe that learning 120000 algs is viable. If anything most ppl would just think he is crazy for even pursuing it but would just leave him alone to do it himself and not bother him.

But as soon as he starts lying about knowing thousands of algs and misleading people into believing that it is viable then people are going to call him out for it. If that is called "western hate" then so be it.

Confused, what baseless accusations are people throwing at you?

What a hypocritical projection LMAO, coming from the guy who regularly accuses the Western cubers of being racist and only wanting white cubers at the top. Almost every accusation against Abhijeet has evidence BTW.

 

[ih8bld]

Being Indian also most likely did not contribute to the amount of hate you got though. You should have expected hate from the start actually.

Edit: removed the first sentence due to misunderstanding

Shivam Bansal broke the MBLD world record with 48/48 after people were stuck for years trying to beat Maskow's 41/41. And no one in the BLD community doubted him as cheating because he regularly uploaded videos showing his improvement and dedication.

Abhijeet regularly makes insane claims like knowing 6000 5style algs without ever providing proof and as soon as he is questioned about it, he starts acting like the victim and blaming his nationality and race. Anyone, even if they are American, Asian, European it doesn't matter, if you do this you will be hated.

 

[Caleb Valenzuela]

Please do not go down this low to eat up the BS that Abhijeet is spewing. You are just deluding yourself.

Shivam Bansal broke the MBLD world record with 48/48 after people were stuck for years trying to beat Maskow's 41/41. And no one in the BLD community doubted him as cheating because he regularly uploaded videos showing his improvement and dedication.

Abhijeet regularly makes insane claims like knowing 6000 5style algs without ever providing proof and as soon as he is questioned about it, he starts acting like the victim and blaming his nationality and race. Anyone, even if they are American, Asian, European it doesn't matter, if you do this you will be hated.

I was actually disagreeing with abhijeet that being Indian contributed to the hate he was receiving

if it didn’t seem that way then now you know that’s what I meant