Are PLL attacks worth practising?

[amostay2004]

I average bout 15-16s but I really suck at PLL time attacks. I'm usually at around 52-53 for that..while people slower than me can get sub-50 or about 45s.

Does executing the PLLs really help improve your execution times? Or will I get faster by just normal practising? I kinda hate PLL attacks cos I get frustrated over lock ups and pops...

 

[Escher]

I average bout 15-16s but I really suck at PLL time attacks. I'm usually at around 52-53 for that..while people slower than me can get sub-50 or about 45s.

Does executing the PLLs really help improve your execution times? Or will I get faster by just normal practising? I kinda hate PLL attacks cos I get frustrated over lock ups and pops...

If you are locking up and popping and things... try slowing down
My time attacks used to be between 55-60, but I hated them, and never did them because i popped so much. I took (i think qqwrefs) good advice and tried to go as smooth as i could, not as fast, and my current PB is now 45.5
I'm not so sure about the benefits of doing full time attacks - I suggest doing an individual PLL say, 150 times in a row or more if you want to get them faster. I've recently been practicing the corner PLLs, and it seems to have made a big difference in solves.

 

[blah]

Tim Sun: No

 

[amostay2004]

Thanks, I read somewhere that going slow helps too..I'll try it..though I might get time like 1:30 to avoid lock ups

 

[Neroflux]

I took (i think qqwrefs) good advice and tried to go as smooth as i could, not as fast, and my current PB is now 45.5

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[blah]

Oh well, the more well-known guys tend to get the credit don't they

 

[Neroflux]

Oh well, the more well-known guys tend to get the credit don't they

no they shut up and let the kids like you regurgitate it for them

 

[Edmund]

im at 17 and my pll attacks are about 1:00 flat. i can go 55 if i really try but stupid g-perms....

 

[JohnnyA]

I don't really see the point of them. How often are you going to have to any number of PLLs in a row during a solvewithout any recognition time between?

Practising invidual PLLs is better. (Of course, you are talking to the guy with the 8 second F2L and 8-10 second LL :O )

 

[Dene]

I never do PLL time attacks but unfortunately I'm basically at the same cubing speed and same PLL time attack speed as you so I can't really give advice on the topic

 

[amostay2004]

I never do PLL time attacks but unfortunately I'm basically at the same cubing speed and same PLL time attack speed as you so I can't really give advice on the topic

That's kinda contradicting right..anyway I know you meant you don't practise PLL attacks..

But it's great to know there're more people like me...I thought my PLLs really sucked for my speed (well maybe I still do )

 

[phil]

PLL time attacks mainly help you with recognizing PLLs, right? I think that you'll probably get more mileage out of just practicing individual PLLs.

 

[Ellis]

PLL time attacks mainly help you with recognizing PLLs, right?

No, I don't think so.

 

[Robert-Y]

I think PLL time attacks are just for fun. Doing averages of each PLL is however a good idea (remember to start and stop correctly though).

 

[Dene]

But it's great to know there're more people like me...I thought my PLLs really sucked for my speed (well maybe I still do )

Oh for sure all my PLLs suck. I can probably get 15~ of them sub2 on a good go. I avg mid2s for most of my PLLs.

 

[brunson]

Pictures or it didn't happen.

 

[Kyle™]

the only attack worth practicing is bomb dropping

 

[abr71310]

TBH I average like 1:40 (PB = 1:30.00 LOL) and I 3x3x3 average around 28 --> 30, but I don't do it as much anymore.

PLL attacks are really for execution + memory, since you have to recall each of the PLLs quickly and fluently and execute them as you continue to recall them until you finish.

I think it would honestly help look-ahead a little bit if you can see some sort of pattern for your PLL attack, but how would I know, I'm a noob that pauses for like 5 seconds between each G-perm because I forget how they start.

 

[amostay2004]

Oh for sure all my PLLs suck. I can probably get 15~ of them sub2 on a good go. I avg mid2s for most of my PLLs.

I think I can sub2 less than 10 PLLs

And yea PLL attacks has nothing to do with recognition at all.

And yea I'm gonna start taking individual averages of PLLs

 

[edwardtimliu]

I never practice for PLL time attacks and I get around 50 seconds, currently averaging 14.65 officially (with a +2 that brought the avg up a notch )
I think the best way to improve is to just do more 3x3 solves, IMO