We need to make some major changes in this forum.

[Isaiah Scott]

Hello everyone,
I’ve always loved these forums. From discussing cube mods and setups to congratulating others on fast times to discussing whatever it may be, this website has been an amazing place for me ever since I joined in 2022. One of the things I’ve liked in particular about the cubing community is how welcoming and supportive it is. The cubing community doesn’t judge or criticize anyone for any reason. Everyone is friendly to everyone no matter their background or who they are. Recently in this forum, I feel like that has not been what has been showing. With huge dramas from JDAW6 to many other people getting banned, we as a community have been very hurtful to these friends. The cubing community is a friendly space, and I want it continue that way. As a forum overall, we have been VERY rude to some members for literally no reason. Sure, maybe they have some obscure ideas or topics that aren’t relevant. However, that gives us no permission at all to treat them any differently than we would our best friend. People come with different backgrounds and have many different ideas and interests. Criticizing them will only make it worse. It’s honestly pathetic how many people have been offended by silly things on a website about solving a plastic toy. Think about how these people who have been banned for no reason feel. They’ve been banned for being themselves.

This cannot continue. We need to be the website and community people want to be a part of. People need to be able to look up to us and want to copy our actions because we are having a good influence on the world. This community WILL NOT treat others like trash no matter whether we feel like it or not. Everyone belongs here and everyone will stay. If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t talk.
Thanks,
Isaiah

 

[Tabe]

Think about how these people who have been banned for no reason feel.

Do you TRULY believe that people have been banned for this forum for "no reason". Like the mods/admins just woke up one day and said, "yeah, let's ban RandomUser73 just because"? C'mon. If you think this has happened, then name the people who were banned for no reason.

 

[Kami]

Can we also bring back progression threads to the front page? Now the only interesting thing that happens on here is when little kids steal their parent's phones to get on here to cause chaos. P.S. I find it kinda silly how they were removed based off of one old timer crying about them, when overall, people liked them on the front page.

 

[Sombi McJunior]

Can we also bring back progression threads to the front page? Now the only interesting thing that happens on here is when little kids steal their parent's phones to get on here to cause chaos.

Second this

 

[qwr]

With huge dramas from JDAW6 to many other people getting banned, we as a community have been very hurtful to these friends.

There was very good reason for these kinds of bans. It's borderline spam and these users are usually rude or very annoying to community members, ignoring the feedback of the community and basic etiquette. The mods are pretty conservative with their use of bans.

If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t talk.

This goes both ways. Being young is not an excuse for being decently respectful in this community. And the bar for that is pretty low here.

Think about how these people who have been banned for no reason feel. They’ve been banned for being themselves.

If being yourself means

• spamming the forums, usually with endless self-promotion
• insulting other members (I have some funny choice quotes)
• asking for free stuff, or recently selling arguably a crypto scam

then yes, they need to change.

 

[CubeLite]

Do you TRULY believe that people have been banned for this forum for "no reason". Like the mods/admins just woke up one day and said, "yeah, let's ban RandomUser73 just because"? C'mon. If you think this has happened, then name the people who were banned for no reason.

There was very good reason for these kinds of bans. It's borderline spam and these users are usually rude or very annoying to community members, ignoring the feedback of the community and basic etiquette. The mods are pretty conservative with their use of bans.


This goes both ways. Being young is not an excuse for being decently respectful in this community. And the bar for that is pretty low here.


If being yourself means

• spamming the forums, usually with endless self-promotion
• insulting other members (I have some funny choice quotes)
• asking for free stuff, or recently selling arguably a crypto scam

then yes, they need to change.

You guys really think that mods give a s***, they don't care at all about what is happening here, they only ban the ones that are either extremely bad or just annoying, cuz if they'd cared about, then why do we still have UKCubeFan here, that doesn't even talk about cubing, only spams profile posts with useless stuff about useless videos or media, and even changed his profile to a woman, like who cares that the only way to ban him is to exterminate his account, do it, it's better than keeping him

And also, on the topic of this thread, I feel like I have been a little rude to some new or young members, and I know I need to change, so if sorry to anyone that I have been rude, I just get annoyed very quickly

 

[xyzzy]

You guys really think that mods give a ****, they don't care at all about what is happening here, they only ban the ones that are either extremely bad or just annoying, cuz if they'd cared about, then why do we still have UKCubeFan here, that doesn't even talk about cubing, only spams profile posts with useless stuff about useless videos or media, and even changed his profile to a woman, like who cares that the only way to ban him is to exterminate his account, do it, it's better than keeping him

FYI, since you seem to be very butthurt from misunderstanding my post elsewhere: despite nominally being a "Super Moderator", the actual moderation actions we can take are missing some crucial components.

We can (and do):
- delete posts and threads
- view and undelete "normally deleted" posts
- edit posts (I do this very sparingly and always make it clear which part was edited by me)
- move posts in a thread to a different thread
- move a thread to a different subforum
- lock/unlock threads
- issue warnings
- see the report queue (including who the reporter(s) is/are and the total number of reports on a page)
- approve/reject posts made by new or inactive accounts
- "spam clean": nuke accounts (ban account + irreversibly delete all posts) that the forum software thinks looks like spam

(edit: this is not an exhaustive list)

We cannot:
- ban people, regardless of how annoying they are (**)
- read direct messages not addressed to us (*)
- do anything about the weekly comp results (except for Mike)

(edit: this is also (even more obviously) not an exhaustive list)

The spam clean action is not always available, and I'm not entirely sure what triggers it. Nevertheless, it is definitely not the right option for an account that posts a mix of relevant and irrelevant content, because it permanently deletes all content from the account. Even if I could have banned ukcubefan with this (which, let me point out for posterity, I cannot), I would not, because he does sometimes actually talk about cubing here!

(*) I know ukcubefan was previously reported for this but I will not take any action if I cannot even see the context. Not that I could have, even if I wanted to, anyway.

(**) The forum rules state that accumulating enough warning points will get you banned but afaict the banning still has to be done manually. I can't just give someone 1000 points then have them automatically end up banned.

 

[Caleb Valenzuela]

Hello everyone,
I’ve always loved these forums. From discussing cube mods and setups to congratulating others on fast times to discussing whatever it may be, this website has been an amazing place for me ever since I joined in 2022. One of the things I’ve liked in particular about the cubing community is how welcoming and supportive it is. The cubing community doesn’t judge or criticize anyone for any reason. Everyone is friendly to everyone no matter their background or who they are. Recently in this forum, I feel like that has not been what has been showing. With huge dramas from JDAW6 to many other people getting banned, we as a community have been very hurtful to these friends. The cubing community is a friendly space, and I want it continue that way. As a forum overall, we have been VERY rude to some members for literally no reason. Sure, maybe they have some obscure ideas or topics that aren’t relevant. However, that gives us no permission at all to treat them any differently than we would our best friend. People come with different backgrounds and have many different ideas and interests. Criticizing them will only make it worse. It’s honestly pathetic how many people have been offended by silly things on a website about solving a plastic toy. Think about how these people who have been banned for no reason feel. They’ve been banned for being themselves.

This cannot continue. We need to be the website and community people want to be a part of. People need to be able to look up to us and want to copy our actions because we are having a good influence on the world. This community WILL NOT treat others like trash no matter whether we feel like it or not. Everyone belongs here and everyone will stay. If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t talk.
Thanks,
Isaiah

one thing I 100% agree with in this post is “If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t talk.” Everyone here is already online, which means they have A LOT of time to THINK about what they are going to post, but instead they immediately type out their opinion without thinking about whether it would be rude or insulting. The only way we can “fix” the issue you have stated here is by “thinking before you type”.

Saying “I get annoyed really quickly” or something similar is NOT an excuse for being rude. My parents always say: “Think before you act,” and I think everyone should go by that. Think about it, getting angry and saying insulting things over a 12 year old spamming the forums? Doesn’t that just seem like you are the immature one here? (not talking about isaiah btw but other forum members). Everyone has something to improve, from moderators to forum members, therefore we cannot blame this on one person/handful of people. I don’t care if you give me “eyes up” and “meh” reactions, this is just my opinion.

 

[CubeLite]

one thing I 100% agree with in this post is “If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t talk.” Everyone here is already online, which means they have A LOT of time to THINK about what they are going to post, but instead they immediately type out their opinion without thinking about whether it would be rude or insulting. The only way we can “fix” the issue you have stated here is by “thinking before you type”.

Saying “I get annoyed really quickly” or something similar is NOT an excuse for being rude. My parents always say: “Think before you act,” and I think everyone should go by that. Think about it, getting angry and saying insulting things over a 12 year old spamming the forums? Doesn’t that just seem like you are the immature one here? (not talking about isaiah btw but other forum members). Everyone has something to improve, from moderators to forum members, therefore we cannot blame this on one person/handful of people. I don’t care if you give me “eyes up” and “meh” reactions, this is just my opinion.

I hate to admit that you are completely right, I really need to change my attitude on the forums, internet and in real life, I think I'll quit forums for a few weeks so that I can calm myself, I also start high school next week, so I can not think about this place while the first days
Cya

 

[That0newe1rdo]

I hate to admit that you are completely right, I really need to change my attitude on the forums, internet and in real life, I think I'll quit forums for a few weeks so that I can calm myself, I also start high school next week, so I can not think about this place while the first days
Cya

Cya.
Tbh i should do the same, i have been quite rude at times, but the place is too addicting for me so i couldnt cope without it haha.

Also i agree with a few points made in the original thread post, and since everything i could say has already been said, im not gonna say anything about it.

 

[Kami]

You and me are two very differnet people. You feel bad for annoying the annoying kids and try to better yourself. I Annoy the annoying kids and don't care.

I hate to admit that you are completely right, I really need to change my attitude on the forums, internet and in real life, I think I'll quit forums for a few weeks so that I can calm myself, I also start high school next week, so I can not think about this place while the first days
Cya

 

[Kami]

Can we also bring back progression threads to the front page? Now the only interesting thing that happens on here is when little kids steal their parent's phones to get on here to cause chaos. P.S. I find it kinda silly how they were removed based off of one old timer crying about them, when overall, people liked them on the front page.

More on this, When you look at this post, all or nearly all (it might change) of the reactions on this post are positive. When you look back on the old Unirox post from Oct 2024, The reactions are very split.

 

[stoic]

More on this, When you look at this post, all or nearly all (it might change) of the reactions on this post are positive. When you look back on the old Unirox post from Oct 2024, The reactions are very split.

Probably not a fair comparison, there's no "thumbs down" icon.

 

[Thomas.Caleb]

FYI, since you seem to be very butthurt from misunderstanding my post elsewhere: despite nominally being a "Super Moderator", the actual moderation actions we can take are missing some crucial components.

We can (and do):
- delete posts and threads
- view and undelete "normally deleted" posts
- edit posts (I do this very sparingly and always make it clear which part was edited by me)
- move posts in a thread to a different thread
- move a thread to a different subforum
- lock/unlock threads
- issue warnings
- see the report queue (including who the reporter(s) is/are and the total number of reports on a page)
- approve/reject posts made by new or inactive accounts
- "spam clean": nuke accounts (ban account + irreversibly delete all posts) that the forum software thinks looks like spam

We cannot:
- ban people, regardless of how annoying they are (**)
- read direct messages not addressed to us (*)
- do anything about the weekly comp results (except for Mike)

The spam clean action is not always available, and I'm not entirely sure what triggers it. Nevertheless, it is definitely not the right option for an account that posts a mix of relevant and irrelevant content, because it permanently deletes all content from the account. Even if I could have banned ukcubefan with this (which, let me point out for posterity, I cannot), I would not, because he does sometimes actually talk about cubing here!

(*) I know ukcubefan was previously reported for this but I will not take any action if I cannot even see the context. Not that I could have, even if I wanted to, anyway.

(**) The forum rules state that accumulating enough warning points will get you banned but afaict the banning still has to be done manually. I can't just give someone 1000 points then have them automatically end up banned.

Just saying @UKCubeFan has had profile pictures with Hitler being a woman and trump in a bikini if thats not worthy of a ban then idk what is wrong with u guys.

 

[Kami]

"Meh" and "Eyes up" exist

Probably not a fair comparison, there's no "thumbs down" icon.

 

[Thomas.Caleb]

And why aren't we talking about @Cubeixverse when it comes to bans

 

[Kami]

And why aren't we talking about @Cubeixverse when it comes to bans

He aint breaking any rules. Hes just very annoying.

 

[Sion]

Honestly, I think one of the worst things to happen to SS are the negative reaction options (Namely the rolling eyes and annoyed emojis). As the old proverb goes, "if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all." If someone feels negatively about a post, they should give a thought-out response to it as opposed to resorting to an emoji that does not offer anything in the way of meaningful discourse.

The eyeroll and annoyed emojis, in my opinion, frankly do nothing but contribute to toxicity in the cubing community. From my experience, toxicity has only really gotten worse in the cubing community. We need to be proactive in getting rid of toxicity, and getting rid of those negative reactions would definitely be a good start.

 

[ProStar]

Personally, I pride myself on my intolerance. For example, I will happily bully anyone who claims anything other than:
- Math is red
- English is blue
- Science is green

 

[TheSpeedSkewber]