Is a 1-second clock single possible in comp?

[Averageof12]

we've seen some incredible clock solves. The question is: will someone improve at clock so much that there might be an official high 1 in a few years? obviously, TPS and accuracy are key for this.

Post your thoughts below!

 

[Cubist-Guitar]

This took way too long to make. If you wouldn’t mind reading it, I’d appreciate it!

I don’t know how to go about finding probabilities for 7-simul, but for flip, I may be able to provide some understanding

First of all, since there is no move limits to clock like there are in 3x3 and 2x2 beyond a general “2 moves” theoretically, yes. However, I think that this is highly unlikely. From calculating 12^4(Each of the 4 edges’ probabilities to be centered to c, the middle clock), that equals 20,734. I can deduce that there is a 1 in 20,734 chance of a scramble having all of the edges on one side being solved. Multiply that by 12 (that c is centered with the other 4 clocks to 12) and the odds of a first side skip in Flip is 1:248832.

The very fast Flip solver can average mid 3-low 4 TPS, but since I am eliminating the flip, I’ll estimate at 4 TPS. There are 8 clocks to solve, and a 9th to align them back to 12. For a sub 2 solve, there would have to be at least one skip, which isn’t completely unlikely.

Thus, for flip, it is possible, but 1:248832 odds for one scramble is not good.

 

[2x2MasterYT]

Carter Thomas has a 1.3- if I remember correctly on a 5mover he framcounted to 1.00, So it's possible

 

[NebraskanSpeedsolver]

we've seen some incredible clock solves. The question is: will someone improve at clock so much that there might be an official high 1 in a few years? obviously, TPS and accuracy are key for this.

Post your thoughts below!

I would almost think of it like this:

What is the UWR for clock (apparently it's sub-2)? The UWR is the fastest we've seen (obviously), and theoretically, with the right time and place, a solver could get that time in a competition. Again, nerves play a role, but just looking at the solves we've already seen, its totally possible.

 

[2x2MasterYT]

I would almost think of it like this:

What is the UWR for clock (apparently it's sub-2)? The UWR is the fastest we've seen (obviously), and theoretically, with the right time and place, a solver could get that time in a competition. Again, nerves play a role, but just looking at the solves we've already seen, its totally possible.

The WB is 1.50 by Volodymyr

 

[THE_V01DL0RD]

The WB is 1.50 by Volodymyr

 

[Davian]

Mick Boekema has 2 sub 2s on cam, he already has a sub 3 single officially, so he potentially might get sub 2 in around ayear i believe.

Edit i just heard that Volo gets an sub 2 around every 20 solves

Translation:
Could be possible right?
In like a year

I mean yeah
volodymyr gets around every 20 solves a sub 2

 

[THE_V01DL0RD]

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Translation:
Could be possible right?
In like a year

I mean yeah
volodymyr gets around every 20 solves a sub 2

This could be just an exaggeration to emphasize the fact that he is a world class...
clocker?

 

[SilkCubingYT]

Sub-2 is very possible within a few years.

Recently Volodymyr and Eryk (WR2 and WR1) have both gotten 7 tps solves, considering the best method 7-simul is at most 14 moves, this means it guarantees a sub-2 single, however, the average movecount for 7 simul is about 12 moves.

Meaning a lucky scramble (8-9 moves) and good turning from one the people i mentioned will result in a sub-2 single.

Compared to the WR average the single is really bad and i expect it to be broken really soon.

 

[SilkCubingYT]

This could be just an exaggeration to emphasize the fact that he is a world class...
clocker?

This is a slight overstatement yes, but he mentioned that he gets sub-2s roughly every 20-40 solves at home if he's solving well.

 

[terukaaz]

Maciuś has WB of 1.15, with (only) 4.34 TPS. If someone is lucky enough it is very possible that sub-2 WR will be set.

Volodymyr has 2.22 DNF by only ONE tick with almost full 7-simul solution (13 moves), which is very commonly found in normal WCA scramble sets.

The WB is 1.50 by Volodymyr

 

[qwr]

Sub-2 is very possible within a few years.

This year

 

[abunickabhi]

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This is some insane statistics, I am scared by seeing such fast times yo.

 

[OtaMota]

I think sub-2 will happen very soon. It could realistically even be the next WR. If we got a sub-2 next WR, it would still be less of a gap than YushengDu

 

[Davian]

I think sub-2 will happen very soon. It could realistically even be the next WR. If we got a sub-2 next WR, it would still be less of a gap than YushengDu

Sub 2 is pretty rare tho, I think it could happen within a year if people like Volodymyr and Eryk would have a 6 or 5 simul scramble..

 

[SilkCubingYT]

My personal prediction is that we will see a sub-2 on clock in March 2025, which is in about 10 months. Recently we've developed a new clock method where you can force 6 simul solutions rougly 1/5 times, so getting lucky scrambles is even more common once people start to use this technique

 

[Cubist-Guitar]

My personal prediction is that we will see a sub-2 on clock in March 2025, which is in about 10 months. Recently we've developed a new clock method where you can force 6 simul solutions rougly 1/5 times, so getting lucky scrambles is even more common once people start to use this technique

Would you mind telling us about this technique, and what makes it different than regular 7 simul?

 

[Chris Choi]

Would you mind telling us about this technique, and what makes it different than regular 7 simul?

It is a new method called pseudo 7 simul. Tetrawaffles made a video on it

 

[caleb_g]

i thought this said sub 1 clock single

 

[SkewbIsTheBestEvent]

It is a new method called pseudo 7 simul. Tetrawaffles made a video on it