Stevish. A programmer starts cubing.

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What a cool forum topic! I love this!

I'm Stevish, a web programmer by trade, and I started cubing (with a 3x3) in January, 2023 at the age of 40. As an avid puzzle solver, I never took on the Rubik's cube because I couldn't figure it out by myself, and I always considered memorizing someone else's solution to a puzzle to be cheating. A silly quibble, but there you have it.

Around Christmas of last year, my kids go into cubing and I tried helping them get to where they could solve a cube without instructions. That got me researching different methods and getting more into cubes. Finally, after playing with the kids' puzzles, I got my own in February and started timing myself.

I began with the beginner's method (seemed like a good idea). After about a week, I was turning in times between 1:30 and 2:30, with my best ao5 being 1:40. I felt like I was ready to learn something else.

I discovered F2L and for the first time, felt like I was actually teaching myself something instead of memorizing someone else's methods (though I did watch a video from jperm about it... I love that guy). I loved that it was mostly intuitive and that I actually understood what was happening on the cube as I made the turns. Also, I hated the algorithm I'd learned to get the 2nd layer pieces in place by themselves.

Shortly after starting f2l, I watched badmephisto's videos on 2-look OLL and PLL, and started using those as well

After making the switch to f2l with 2-look OLL/PLL, my times immediately doubled and I was recording 3 and 4 minute times, and going as high as 5 minutes, with plenty of DNF's. But over the next 2 months, I slowly worked that down and down and down until April 16th when I recorded my first Sub-1:00 time, on a solve where I didn't get to skip any steps. I was SO PUMPED!!!

That's when I started looking at competitions. Currently I'm waiting for a comp in Central Florida to sign up for. I may enter my kids as well if they want to, they go back and forth. I'm excited to get a bit more into it, and am looking to plug into the cubing community. So maybe I'll meet some of you in person one day!

As for goals, my goal right now is to compete at a competition and not be last place. After that, I'd like to get to where I can make it to the second round of a competition.
 
What a cool forum topic! I love this!

I'm Stevish, a web programmer by trade, and I started cubing (with a 3x3) in January, 2023 at the age of 40. As an avid puzzle solver, I never took on the Rubik's cube because I couldn't figure it out by myself, and I always considered memorizing someone else's solution to a puzzle to be cheating. A silly quibble, but there you have it.

Around Christmas of last year, my kids go into cubing and I tried helping them get to where they could solve a cube without instructions. That got me researching different methods and getting more into cubes. Finally, after playing with the kids' puzzles, I got my own in February and started timing myself.

I began with the beginner's method (seemed like a good idea). After about a week, I was turning in times between 1:30 and 2:30, with my best ao5 being 1:40. I felt like I was ready to learn something else.

I discovered F2L and for the first time, felt like I was actually teaching myself something instead of memorizing someone else's methods (though I did watch a video from jperm about it... I love that guy). I loved that it was mostly intuitive and that I actually understood what was happening on the cube as I made the turns. Also, I hated the algorithm I'd learned to get the 2nd layer pieces in place by themselves.

Shortly after starting f2l, I watched badmephisto's videos on 2-look OLL and PLL, and started using those as well

After making the switch to f2l with 2-look OLL/PLL, my times immediately doubled and I was recording 3 and 4 minute times, and going as high as 5 minutes, with plenty of DNF's. But over the next 2 months, I slowly worked that down and down and down until April 16th when I recorded my first Sub-1:00 time, on a solve where I didn't get to skip any steps. I was SO PUMPED!!!

That's when I started looking at competitions. Currently I'm waiting for a comp in Central Florida to sign up for. I may enter my kids as well if they want to, they go back and forth. I'm excited to get a bit more into it, and am looking to plug into the cubing community. So maybe I'll meet some of you in person one day!

As for goals, my goal right now is to compete at a competition and not be last place. After that, I'd like to get to where I can make it to the second round of a competition.
I have a weird question.
Are you faster than your kids?
 
I have a weird question.
Are you faster than your kids?
Lol, great question. My kids were definitely faster than me at first. They were dedicated and spent a lot of time solving their cubes, timing themselves with stopwatches. In contrast, I didn't have much time to spend on it. Gradually, though, it became a question of attention span. They got excited about other things and didn't have as much time for cubing, and I eventually overtook them.
 
Welcome to the forums! It’s very cool to hear your story.

There’s an upcoming comp in Tallahassee in about a month, but it’s pretty far and has side events and blindfolded events, so probably not as fun for you or your kids. It can also easily be a 3-5 hour drive depending on where in central Florida you are
 
For the 2nd round idea, you should learn full PLL and some basic connected F2L cases.
Full PLL is next on my list, but I need more F2L practice, first. It's still pretty slow. I did learn a lot of the tricks for when the pieces are already connected in the wrong way, so that sped me up a little. I just spend a lot of time thinking about which way to pop out a corner so it aligns with the side piece and stuff like that. I also always rotate the cube to work on the front right or front left without ever turning the F face... so that's probably costing me a lot of time. It's just scary to think about inserting pieces in the back instead of turning the cube. Maybe after I get quicker at recognizing F2L cases, I'll feel braver about doing them in any corner.
 
Full PLL is next on my list, but I need more F2L practice, first. It's still pretty slow. I did learn a lot of the tricks for when the pieces are already connected in the wrong way, so that sped me up a little. I just spend a lot of time thinking about which way to pop out a corner so it aligns with the side piece and stuff like that. I also always rotate the cube to work on the front right or front left without ever turning the F face... so that's probably costing me a lot of time. It's just scary to think about inserting pieces in the back instead of turning the cube. Maybe after I get quicker at recognizing F2L cases, I'll feel braver about doing them in any corner.
For the PLL, I'd say you can get by for quite a bit of time without full PLL, if you really wanted too. I average 17 seconds-ish and I still dont know full PLL. A bit over halfway there, but I'd say the most important part, as you stated, is F2L. Also, make sure you learn to insert into ANY slot, and practice a ton on rear inserts. It's a pain, but it'll prevent back habits
 
Thanks for the encouragement, everyone.

I'm currently focused on F2L. I used the multi-phase option on csTimer to split my times into 4 phases, so I could look back at how long the cross, F2L, OLL and PLL each take me. It probably costs me a second or two to my total time to take a hand off the cube to hit the timer, but it's worth the insights it gives me. I ran through 6 solves that took between 0:56 and 1:20 and got these as my averages:
  • 13.31 seconds on the white cross
  • 35.95 seconds on F2L
  • 8.96 on OLL
  • 12.21 on PLL
So, it's pretty obvious where my biggest time cost is coming from. Can't hope to ever be sub-30 if your F2L takes 35!

As a proof of this, I just recorded a new PB of 46.28 (AND no skips!). It was because the F2L step went SO smoothly, where I recognized cases immediately and knew just what to do. I think there were even 2 perfectly matched pairs that only took a couple seconds to recognize and get inserted. Unfortunately, I wasn't recording split times, so I'm not sure how long each step took me, but I do remember that I froze up for a couple seconds on PLL as I tried to remember E-Perm, then carefully work through it (no matter how many times I do it in a row in practice, that thing still haunts me during solves). All that to say, while I was not at my best on OLL/PLL, I still crushed my PB by 4.5 seconds by nailing F2L.

So, in my next practice sessions, I will work the cross/F2L then rescramble and do it again. And I will do the F2L without rotating the cube at all no matter how long it takes. I've been doing really bad at the F and B turns, especially the B so... hopefully I get those figured out for use in F2L.
 
Thanks for the encouragement, everyone.

I'm currently focused on F2L. I used the multi-phase option on csTimer to split my times into 4 phases, so I could look back at how long the cross, F2L, OLL and PLL each take me. It probably costs me a second or two to my total time to take a hand off the cube to hit the timer, but it's worth the insights it gives me. I ran through 6 solves that took between 0:56 and 1:20 and got these as my averages:
  • 13.31 seconds on the white cross
  • 35.95 seconds on F2L
  • 8.96 on OLL
  • 12.21 on PLL
So, it's pretty obvious where my biggest time cost is coming from. Can't hope to ever be sub-30 if your F2L takes 35!

As a proof of this, I just recorded a new PB of 46.28 (AND no skips!). It was because the F2L step went SO smoothly, where I recognized cases immediately and knew just what to do. I think there were even 2 perfectly matched pairs that only took a couple seconds to recognize and get inserted. Unfortunately, I wasn't recording split times, so I'm not sure how long each step took me, but I do remember that I froze up for a couple seconds on PLL as I tried to remember E-Perm, then carefully work through it (no matter how many times I do it in a row in practice, that thing still haunts me during solves). All that to say, while I was not at my best on OLL/PLL, I still crushed my PB by 4.5 seconds by nailing F2L.

So, in my next practice sessions, I will work the cross/F2L then rescramble and do it again. And I will do the F2L without rotating the cube at all no matter how long it takes. I've been doing really bad at the F and B turns, especially the B so... hopefully I get those figured out for use in F2L.
nice to see you improve!

I would advice you to learn to solve both on white and yellow.

it may be hard at the beginning but I switched to dual color neutral some months after beginning and it was so weird but then I just got used to it. now I can solve the same times with both colors and you can have a easier start if you know two colors. I got a sub12 single on yellow these days (it's the only sub12 on my cubedesk session lol)

for f2l and LL just keep grinding, you will get good in no time ;)
 
So, in my next practice sessions, I will work the cross/F2L then rescramble and do it again. And I will do the F2L without rotating the cube at all no matter how long it takes. I've been doing really bad at the F and B turns, especially the B so... hopefully I get those figured out for use in F2L.
if you have a bad edge, sometimes is better to simply rotate than doing B or F moves.

look this

 
So, if I'm doing F2L but avoiding F/B moves, does that mean I use single y or y' rotations to just slide the the corner to the other side, but not necessarily bring it to the front?
 
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So, if I'm doing F2L but avoiding F/B moves, does that mean I use single y or y' rotations to just slide the the corner to the other side, but not necessarily bring it to the front?

I don't get it what you mean by sliding the corner to the other side.

if you do a y, the edges on top that couldn't be solved with R and U or L and U now can.
look at this case:

 Twizzle link 
 Setup 
R' F R F'
 Moves 


to solve it you have to do a F or B move, rotate (y, y') or doing Dw, Dw' or M moves.
that will orient that edge.

if you do a y or y' you can solve it with just R, U or L, U
 
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