What's the best 4x4 method?

[An Animating Cuber]

I'm surprised there isn't a lot of discussion on this so I'm making a poll, a quick rundown for all the methods in case you don't know. Yau: Solve two adjacent centers, make 3 cross edges and attach them to the center, make the rest of the centers, solve the last cross edge, edge pairing, solve like 3x3. Hoya: Solve all centers except for front and top, inert cross edges to solve cross, solve last two centers, edge pairing, solve like 3x3. Redux: Solve all centers, edge pairing, solve like a 3x3. F3L: (Note I'm basing this off of cube masters method there are some other F3L methods out there) Solve bottom center (Must be cross color), join cross edges and vertical center bars to simultaneously solve cross and centers, edge pairing, solve like a 3x3.

I personally use Hoya for its freedom with the first four centers and not having to solve the last cross edge after finishing centers.

 

[FenTheGoat]

I'm surprised there isn't a lot of discussion on this so I'm making a poll, a quick rundown for all the methods in case you don't know. Yau: Solve two adjacent centers, make 3 cross edges and attach them to the center, make the rest of the centers, solve the last cross edge, edge pairing, solve like 3x3. Hoya: Solve all centers except for front and top, inert cross edges to solve cross, solve last two centers, edge pairing, solve like 3x3. Redux: Solve all centers, edge pairing, solve like a 3x3. F3L: (Note I'm basing this off of cube masters method there are some other F3L methods out there) Solve bottom center (Must be cross color), join cross edges and vertical center bars to simultaneously solve cross and centers, edge pairing, solve like a 3x3.

I personally use Hoya for its freedom with the first four centers and not having to solve the last cross edge after finishing centers.

It’s pretty clear cut that yau is best. That’s why all the top Cubers use it.

 

[caleb_g]

i think yau but thats just because i do it so it might be biased slightly

 

[randomness...]

i use redux because i dont go over 3x3, but yau is the best

 

[An Animating Cuber]

It’s pretty clear cut that yau is best. That’s why all the top Cubers use it.

I'm fairly sure that a lot of the top 4x4 cuber's immediately leant Yau and never tried the other methods.

 

[ruffleduck]

K4 is quite good and is much more interesting than 3x3 redux type methods.

 

[caleb_g]

k4yfour

 

[FenTheGoat]

I'm fairly sure that a lot of the top 4x4 cuber's immediately leant Yau and never tried the other methods.

Fair point

 

[abunickabhi]

I am quite fond of Meyer and Stadler methods.

That being said, I use Hoya in my official solves.

 

[Deleted member 36445]

K4 is quite good and is much more interesting than 3x3 redux type methods.

I can't figure commutators and last layer is alien

I like the method tho

 

[Isaiah Scott]

Yau w/ 323 edges all the way

 

[OreKehStrah]

Yau is very clearly the best known 4x4. That said, the fact we have a person in top100 using K4 with such a small user base is pretty cool.

 

[CLL Smooth]

Hoya. I learned Yau before Hoya but progressed much quicker with Hoya. I think the lookahead is better and transitioning between steps is easier.

 

[gsingh]

That said, the fact we have a person in top100 using K4 with such a small user base is pretty cool.

That's indeed pretty cool. Who?

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

That's indeed pretty cool. Who?

Jules Desjardin, 98th for single. Idk if there is also someone in the top 100 for avg, probably not.

 

[OldSwiss]

Yau is the best and I think even the easiest.

Keeping the 3 cross pieces while solving center is a little hard when you first learn it but the 3-2-3 Edge pairing is so very fast.
Because finding the edgepieces is so much easier I even show this method to beginners who want to learn 4x4.
But in this case I let them build the cross first with redux and then switch to 3-2-3

I am quite fond of Meyer and Stadler methods.

Cool that someone mentioned the Stadler Method. Thomas Stadler lives very close to me and organises a lot of competitions and cubing events in my area. I'll tell him when I meet him the next time.
I tried it but as a CFOP Solver it was hard for me

 

[Silky]

I'd say that Yau, Hoya, and K4 are all candidates for 'best' methods given there is representation in top 100. I personally believe that Meyer has potential although doesn't have a lot of users. I think the next step in development for Meyer is EO Parity algs although I don't currently have the know-how to generate those algs. I also know several people believe that QTPI has potential, although I'm not sure what's come of that method. For QTPI dev I think that making some sort of better system for Last 10 Edges/Last 4 Centers would be an improvement over of 'just using coms'.

 

[abunickabhi]

Yau is the best and I think even the easiest.

Keeping the 3 cross pieces while solving center is a little hard when you first learn it but the 3-2-3 Edge pairing is so very fast.
Because finding the edgepieces is so much easier I even show this method to beginners who want to learn 4x4.
But in this case I let them build the cross first with redux and then switch to 3-2-3





Cool that someone mentioned the Stadler Method. Thomas Stadler lives very close to me and organises a lot of competitions and cubing events in my area. I'll tell him when I meet him the next time.
I tried it but as a CFOP Solver it was hard for me

Oh that's wonderful.

It would be great if you could ask him a few questions about Stadler methods?

I have a bunch of them to ask. The method is a bit harder to grasp if you are from a CFOP background.

 

[CLL Smooth]

Yau is the best and I think even the easiest.

Keeping the 3 cross pieces while solving center is a little hard when you first learn it but the 3-2-3 Edge pairing is so very fast.
Because finding the edgepieces is so much easier I even show this method to beginners who want to learn 4x4.
But in this case I let them build the cross first with redux and then switch to 3-2-3

3-2-3 edge pairing is not specific to Yau. I do 3-2-3 edge pairing with Hoya also. Those methods are defined by what is done before the last 8 edges.

 

[OldSwiss]

It would be great if you could ask him a few questions about Stadler methods?

I don't think I would understand it, but you could contact him on his website

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