gsingh's Road to Sub 6

[gsingh]

How did you get sub 9 without cross+1?
Also, how did you become great at it in a week?
And why don't your comp time match your irl solves?
Could you give us an ao12 just to clear this up?

1. if you have good look ahead sub 9 without cross +1 is not actually too hard.
2. cross plus one does not actually take to long to master, only around a week
3. nerves, but its getting better in the first comp this year i averaged 13 ,the next one only 1 week later it was 11, next comp was 10
4. i will try to get one here soon

good ao5 followed by a trash ao5
Generated By csTimer on 2022-05-03 (solving from 2022-05-03 11:25:27 to 2022-05-03 11:28:20)
avg of 5: 6.89

Time List:
1. 6.66 B L2 B L2 B L2 F R2 D2 R2 F2 L2 D' R' B F D L2 B U' L' @2022-05-03 11:25:27
2. 6.56 L U F2 B' U B U2 R' F U' R2 L2 D' L2 F2 B2 D F2 U' D' @2022-05-03 11:26:17
3. (5.88) F' D2 L2 U' L2 D' L2 R2 U2 R2 F L' U B' D2 R2 B2 U' L' @2022-05-03 11:27:25
4. (7.92) D' B L2 U B2 D L D2 B F2 U D2 L2 D B2 U2 B2 R2 F2 R2 @2022-05-03 11:27:52
5. 7.46 L R2 U L2 D L2 F2 D U B2 L2 U2 B' R2 D' F U' L' B' F R2 @2022-05-03 11:28:20

Generated By csTimer on 2022-05-03 (solving from 2022-05-03 11:28:39 to 2022-05-03 11:30:57)
avg of 5: 9.18

Time List:
1. 9.94 U2 L2 F2 D2 R U2 F2 L F2 L' U' R B2 L2 B' F' D2 U' R2 @2022-05-03 11:28:39
2. 8.30 U' L2 D' B2 D' R2 U B2 U' F2 B' L' U2 F U B R D' F' @2022-05-03 11:29:04
3. (10.68) R2 F L2 D F2 L2 F2 U' B2 D2 F2 D L2 U' F L R2 B L' B2 L2 @2022-05-03 11:30:09
4. 9.31 D' L U' R F2 R2 B' D' F' U F2 R2 U R2 U2 F2 B2 L2 D' R2 D2 @2022-05-03 11:30:33
5. (7.50) R' U L' F D2 R B D' B' R' L' D2 L' B2 L2 B2 D2 B2 R D2 @2022-05-03 11:30:57

 

[IsThatA4x4]

cross plus one does not actually take to long to master, only around a week

How CN are you? White only? Dual? Full?
That would affect how long this takes. If you're at least dual but up to full CN I can totally see it taking a week.

 

[cuberswoop]

good ao5 followed by a trash ao5
Generated By csTimer on 2022-05-03 (solving from 2022-05-03 11:25:27 to 2022-05-03 11:28:20)
avg of 5: 6.89

Time List:
1. 6.66 B L2 B L2 B L2 F R2 D2 R2 F2 L2 D' R' B F D L2 B U' L' @2022-05-03 11:25:27
2. 6.56 L U F2 B' U B U2 R' F U' R2 L2 D' L2 F2 B2 D F2 U' D' @2022-05-03 11:26:17
3. (5.88) F' D2 L2 U' L2 D' L2 R2 U2 R2 F L' U B' D2 R2 B2 U' L' @2022-05-03 11:27:25
4. (7.92) D' B L2 U B2 D L D2 B F2 U D2 L2 D B2 U2 B2 R2 F2 R2 @2022-05-03 11:27:52
5. 7.46 L R2 U L2 D L2 F2 D U B2 L2 U2 B' R2 D' F U' L' B' F R2 @2022-05-03 11:28:20

Generated By csTimer on 2022-05-03 (solving from 2022-05-03 11:28:39 to 2022-05-03 11:30:57)
avg of 5: 9.18

Time List:
1. 9.94 U2 L2 F2 D2 R U2 F2 L F2 L' U' R B2 L2 B' F' D2 U' R2 @2022-05-03 11:28:39
2. 8.30 U' L2 D' B2 D' R2 U B2 U' F2 B' L' U2 F U B R D' F' @2022-05-03 11:29:04
3. (10.68) R2 F L2 D F2 L2 F2 U' B2 D2 F2 D L2 U' F L R2 B L' B2 L2 @2022-05-03 11:30:09
4. 9.31 D' L U' R F2 R2 B' D' F' U F2 R2 U R2 U2 F2 B2 L2 D' R2 D2 @2022-05-03 11:30:33
5. (7.50) R' U L' F D2 R B D' B' R' L' D2 L' B2 L2 B2 D2 B2 R D2 @2022-05-03 11:30:57

So what happened to no cheating?

 

[Timona]

You guys are stressing this issue too much. Cheating times doesn't harm you, it harms the cheater. If they claim they're improving and they're not, then they're the one losing something, which is the actual improvement, not you. If he claims he's sub-10 or sub-8 or whatever, and he goes to a comp and performs slightly below that, then so be it.

 

[IsThatA4x4]

You guys are stressing this issue too much. Cheating times doesn't harm you, it harms the cheater. If they claim they're improving and they're not, then they're the one losing something, which is the actual improvement, not you. If he claims he's sub-10 or sub-8 or whatever, and he goes to a comp and performs slightly below that, then so be it.

Exactly, he's already told us that he cheated 5x5, it would be pretty stupid to also cheat 3x3. Everyone is just more skeptical of coincidences or rare occurrences than before.

 

[Zeke Mackay]

Take a look at the WR for each second barrier and report back how long it took to break them, each gap from second to second.

I would argue this is irrelevant. However, I haven't gotten an official average over 10 seconds since I averaged mid-9. Gurshan has gotten exclusively averages over 10 seconds and claims to now be sub8.

 

[gsingh]

I would argue this is irrelevant. However, I haven't gotten an official average over 10 seconds since I averaged mid-9. Gurshan has gotten exclusively averages over 10 seconds and claims to now be sub8.

well, you are just very consistent. im not. just today, i got a mid 6 ao5 and then less than a minute later got a high 9 ao5

added a poll

 

[Imsoosm]

Personally I don't see what you guys are calling him out for.
After that incident with the 5x5 times, it would be pretty dumb to do the same thing again with 3x3 unless gsingh wants to be kicked out of the forums (which of course he doesn't want to). And I don't see why anyone sane would press the space bar again and again just for some fake times. Even if he did fake these times, what's in it for you to point it out? I'm believing him for this time.

 

[cuberswoop]

it would be pretty dumb to do the same thing again with 3x3

I don't know, he seems pretty dumb to me.

 

[Eli Apperson]

Personally I don't see what you guys are calling him out for.
After that incident with the 5x5 times, it would be pretty dumb to do the same thing again with 3x3 unless gsingh wants to be kicked out of the forums (which of course he doesn't want to). And I don't see why anyone sane would press the space bar again and again just for some fake times. Even if he did fake these times, what's in it for you to point it out? I'm believing him for this time.

I don't know why anyone would fake times. With that said, most if not all of the evidence stacks up against him, and we have nothing to trust beside his word. And, given the past incident with the 5x5 times, I'm going to need something more than his word to believe it.

 

[NigelTheCuber]

gsingh dont listen to the guys who say u fake they trash talking

 

[cuberswoop]

You know you can just say you broke the world record right?

 

[gsingh]

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You know you can just say you broke the world record right?

i have a question for you: why are you wasting your time arguing with some random person on the internet instead of doing something like practicing so you can actually improve yourself and stop just going around claiming people are faking solves(probably out of jealousy)?

anyway, i got a 3x3 pb single
Generated By csTimer on 2022-05-08
single: 3.70

Time List:
1. 3.70 D R F2 L D2 U2 R D2 L2 D2 B' D2 R D L2 F U' F' @2022-05-06 10:35:24
@cuberswoop , before you start going on with your "oh we have caught you you're stealing scrambles your times are fake" nonsense, i know the scramble is from brian sun's video. just like with jperms scramble, i did the solve BEFORE watching the reconstruction, so im counting it as a pb

 

[fun at the joy]

i have a question for you: why are you wasting your time arguing with some random person on the internet instead of doing something like practicing so you can actually improve yourself and stop just going around claiming people are faking solves(probably out of jealousy)?

anyway, i got a 3x3 pb single
Generated By csTimer on 2022-05-08
single: 3.70

Time List:
1. 3.70 D R F2 L D2 U2 R D2 L2 D2 B' D2 R D L2 F U' F' @2022-05-06 10:35:24
@cuberswoop , before you start going on with your "oh we have caught you you're stealing scrambles your times are fake" nonsense, i know the scramble is from brian sun's video. just like with jperms scramble, i did the solve BEFORE watching the reconstruction, so im counting it as a pb

I'd rather get to know why you are wasting your time posting fake times and miserably defending their legitimacy instead of doing something like practicing so you can actually improve yourself and stop just going around claiming your times are legit.

 

[Mike Hughey]

i know the scramble is from brian sun's video. just like with jperms scramble, i did the solve BEFORE watching the reconstruction, so im counting it as a pb

Of course, a PB at home is just for your own interest and something which no one else should care about, so you can do whatever you want. But I think it's safe to say that most good cubers would not count this as a PB. It is potentially quite an advantage to know a scramble is a good scramble, even if you don't know the details of the solve. You can know that there must be some quick solution, so you can safely assume a given quick insertion or easy OLL/PLL is the best one, and move faster with less delay. And you're more likely to spend extra time in inspection than you normally would looking for a good solution.

 

[IsThatA4x4]

, i know the scramble is from brian sun's video. just like with jperms scramble, i did the solve BEFORE watching the reconstruction, so im counting it as a pb

But that means you had prior knowledge of it being a good scramble.
Counting that as a PB is wrong, it's like going through the lucky scrambles thread and doing those scrambles: they are NOT randomly generated, as they have been cherry picked to be, as the thread suggests, the luckiest.
Or, to put it some way other than cubing, it's like (in the context of school because yeah) choosing the easiest i dunno, maths paper, from a list that somebody has given you prior knowledge that it is easy, doing it, getting an amazing mark, then proclaiming that you must be amazing at maths.
It's just simply not true.
and before you call me jealous, I'm not. I know I can get fast by slowly grinding new techniques and algs, and I see cubing as a constant quest for personal improvement and not a competition and so frankly don't care if someone is faster than me.

 

[cuberswoop]

i have a question for you: why are you wasting your time arguing with some random person on the internet instead of doing something like practicing so you can actually improve yourself and stop just going around claiming people are faking solves(probably out of jealousy)?

The fraud just accused me of fraud.

 

[gsingh]

I'd rather get to know why you are wasting your time posting fake times and miserably defending their legitimacy instead of doing something like practicing so you can actually improve yourself and stop just going around claiming your times are legit.

i want to know why you even care

 

[IsThatA4x4]

Let's not make this toxic. I don't want to go any deeper down this rabbit hole than we already are, and it's just going to bring everyone down further, and arguing about it like children (distinction: young children because a lot of us including myself here are children) is only going to worsen that.
Gsingh, you really can't expect people to keep trusting you as things get sketchier and sketchier, trying to gain that will only dig yourself a deeper grave, whether these times are cheated or not.
If you want the best out of this situation, I would suggest explaining exactly what is and isn't true here in a non-toxic way, so that we can make sense of the situation.
If you can't remain clam and civil, don't bother.

 

[Timona]

Yall tripping fr