1.35 trillion years to accidentally solve a cube blindfolded?

[cookingfat]

I was searching for something different and stumbled across this >

According to Britain's Sir Fred Hoyle:

The human cell has some 200,000 proteins, and that the smallest of these would require the same time to accidentally form as it takes the blindfolded person to solve the Rubik's cube - whether or not you approach this from a nucleic acid standpoint. A blindfolded person could solve a Rubik's Cube in 1.35 trillion years, if he made one move per second and never rested.

"Imagine 1050 blind persons each with a scrambled Rubik cube, and try to conceive of the chance of them all simultaneously arriving at the solved form. You then have the chance of arriving by random shuffling of just one of the many biopolymers on which life depends. The notion that not only the biopolymers but the operating program of a living cell could be arrived at by chance in a primordial organic soup here on the Earth is evidently nonsense of a high order. Life must plainly be a cosmic phenomenon."


this is the website it came from http://bibleprobe.com/creationism.htm

 

[brunson]

Specious, overly simplistic and wrong.

My question to people that argue for creationism, "Was evolution too hard for your god to create?"

 

[MichaelErskine]

I suppose God created those who believe in evolution too...

...on further consideration, I'm not touching this subject with a 10 foot pole

 

[tim]

I suppose God created those who believe in evolution too...

...on further consideration, I'm not touching this subject with a 10 foot pole

So there are people who believe there's no evolution? I didn't know that.

 

[shelley]

Yes, there are people who believe their deity of choice magically poofed everything into existence about 6000 years ago. You must be lucky to live in an area where everyone is educated enough so that this isn't an issue.

The argument about random protein building is too simplified. Certain protein structures are more stable than others and are more likely to stay around/more likely to be duplicated. For the Rubik's cube analogy, it's as if a non-cuber were trying to solve a cube, but if he sees that a block or a layer is completed, he will try to preserve it. Still a simplified explanation, but that approach will take significantly less than a trillion years (that one guy did it in 26, and he even had time to eat and sleep).

 

[Kian]

I suppose God created those who believe in evolution too...

...on further consideration, I'm not touching this subject with a 10 foot pole

So there are people who believe there's no evolution? I didn't know that.

I believe most people that say they don't believe in evolution are not suggesting there is no natural selection but, rather, are challenging some of the perceived notions of what "evolution" entails. For example, irreducible complexity is incompatible with so meof tenets of evolution from organic molecules to multi-celled organisms.

And, of course, there are some that would deny it completely. But there's really no use arguing with those who will not be swayed. The debate for other facets of the theory, however, is important to its scientific worth.

 

[KubeKid73]

I suppose God created those who believe in evolution too...

...on further consideration, I'm not touching this subject with a 10 foot pole

But if you did touch it with a 10 foot pole, you still wouldn't like this subject. That expression never makes sense. It should be I would only touch this subject with a 10 foot or longer pole.

 

[Zarxrax]

I think the point of the original post was probably more that it's saying it would take someone blindfolded over 1 trillion years to solve a rubik's cube, but we all know full well that a blindfolded person can solve the cube in a matter of minutes
At least that's how I took it.

 

[cookingfat]

I think the point of the original post was probably more that it's saying it would take someone blindfolded over 1 trillion years to solve a rubik's cube, but we all know full well that a blindfolded person can solve the cube in a matter of minutes
At least that's how I took it.

yes that was the intention, I didn't want to spark a religious debate at all, so please don't.

I don't know if the guy meant 'solve the cube blindfolded without knowing how to do it', but even if he did, where does he get his figures from? I'm guessing he doesn't actually know anything about blindfold cubing at all and it's all just made up.

 

[soccerking813]

Just something to add to the little debate...
Have you ever thought to think about just how unnatural humans are? We humans are like leeches, taking as much out of the earth as we can.

 

[Ton]

I suppose God created those who believe in evolution too...

...on further consideration, I'm not touching this subject with a 10 foot pole

So there are people who believe there's no evolution? I didn't know that.

And some people believe in evolution ...Weird

 

[tim]

I suppose God created those who believe in evolution too...

...on further consideration, I'm not touching this subject with a 10 foot pole

So there are people who believe there's no evolution? I didn't know that.

And some people believe in evolution ...Weird

Are you referring to my post? If so, don't take the word "believe" too serious, i just used the same word as msemtd.

 

[WaffleCake]

Just pointing out, you wouldn't solve it after 1.35 trillion years, you would just happen to solve it once in that time span (following those calculations).

It's my opinion that arguing about whether or not there is a god is just about the stupidest conversation you can have. You know why? Because no living person will ever prove that there is or that there isn't.

The above statement is only meant to apply to the creation of the universe, and matter (how stuff got here, basically). It doesn't matter if it is discovered that the universe came to be from something else, because something had to create that, and then there's an infinite cycle of what created what. When you think about it, the most likely end is some form of omnipotent being (but then you raise the question of who created said omnipotent being :confused.

I think it's perfectly okay however to claim that pretty much all of the bible is false, because there's conclusive scientific evidence towards that.

I have loads more to say, but not enough time to say it. Maybe I'll make a YouTube video about it in the near future (DO NOT think I have any serious stuff on my YouTube channel right now, because it is currently filled with videos specifically designed for complete randomness. You might find them funny though. Some do, some don't. The target audience is teenagers, mind you).
/rambling

So that's about it, and remember, buy waffles.

 

[brunson]

Waffles are irreducibly complex. I don't believe in them.

 

[WaffleCake]

Waffles are irreducibly complex. I don't believe in them.

Well I eat about 16 a day and seem to maintain a very healthy weight somehow.

You may be onto something.

 

[(X)]

You can't prove that Santa does exist nor that he doesn't , but it's quite obvious he doesn't...

 

[Zarxrax]

You can't prove that Santa does exist nor that he doesn't , but it's quite obvious he doesn't...

WHAT? Then... who's been leaving me presents under the christmas tree for these past 26 years??

 

[byu]

You can't prove that Santa does exist nor that he doesn't , but it's quite obvious he doesn't...

WHAT? Then... who's been leaving me presents under the christmas tree for these past 26 years??

The cubing fairy

 

[WaffleCake]

You can't prove that Santa does exist nor that he doesn't , but it's quite obvious he doesn't...

Sure you can. There's lots of evidence that Santa doesn't exist, but that can't be said about god (remember, I'm only talking about what created the universe here). Santa was thought up specifically as a lie, and lies don't randomly become physical matter. That's conclusive evidence. There is always some uncertainty in anything, so you have to accept simple things as fact or we could never get anything done. However, there isn't any evidence at all to disprove something creating the universe, because we can't even perceive something that complex. If you find any, please let me know.

By the way, I don't believe in god, just in case you weren't sure.

 

[Stefan]

Santa was thought up specifically as a lie

Proof please.