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Sub-7 With Waterman (Dont accuse me of faking this one)

xyzzy

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Hypothetically, given that the footage starts with the scramble already visible, you could have rehearsed the scramble before recording. Easiest way around this would be to provide the recording starting from a few solves earlier, although even then there are ways to fake it regardless.

I'm terrible at telling whether not-obviously-faked solves are fake, so I'm going to withhold judgment on whether that happened.
 

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Did you record this whole session and only take the part where you had the seven second solve? If so, then could you maybe post a video with the five or so solves before?
 

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Hypothetically, given that the footage starts with the scramble already visible, you could have rehearsed the scramble before recording. Easiest way around this would be to provide the recording starting from a few solves earlier, although even then there are ways to fake it regardless.

I'm terrible at telling whether not-obviously-faked solves are fake, so I'm going to withhold judgment on whether that happened.
Yeah I was recording like 20 solves earlier, but i done deleted everything except the 6.7. Sorry. I will film more solves for now on. Also that solve wasnt faked for your information.
Did you record this whole session and only take the part where you had the seven second solve? If so, then could you maybe post a video with the five or so solves before?
Hmmmmmm i might think about that for the future. Like I said before I deleted the recording of like 20 solves earlier including a sub-10 that was misscrambled.
 
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I'm not accusing you of anything, but you have to understand that if you get a really good time using an unconventional method without providing proof that you're capable of such times, it's completely reasonable for people to be sceptical.
I understand that lol. This time I will try not to get in an argument about.

I got the recon now

B U' L F' B R2 U B R L2 U2 F D2 U2 B' U2 F R2 B' D2 // Scramble

y // Inspection
U L2 u' L' U2 B // Waterman Layer
L F' L' F d R U' // CLL (1 Move Offset)
M' x' z M U2 M' U // 2 Edges
x2 M' U M' U' r' U2 M U M' // Waterman set 1 Alg (1 Move Offset)
U' M2 U2 R // Permute Midges

31 STM
6.7 Time
4.6 TPS
Waterman Lookahead is Amazing

Recon vid come out later today
 
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How did you manage to recognize the case for Waterman Set 1 when the R slice was offset by 1 move?
Just like normal. I pretended the (supposed) top midges was on the top (even tho they werent) and did the alg. it is also probably one of like 2 or 3 algs I know from that set lol.

How did you manage to recognize the case for Waterman Set 1 when the R slice was offset by 1 move?
x2 M' U M' U' r' U2 M U M' // Waterman set 1 Alg (1 Move Offset)
During this x2, I saw the last remaining redge in the M slice and I saw the what would be the top layer midges if I do an M2. Also while I was doing an x2, I saw that unsolved piece was disoriented.
I ended up having the unsolved piece in the back. The current DF edge (after just the x2) Was also disoriented so now I knew what case this was as this is one of im not joking, 4 cases from set 1 that I know. I do the alg and after that M', I was offset by 1 move. Here is why.

U' M2 U2 R // Permute Midges
I could cancel because while I was doing the last M' from the Set 1 alg, I saw this permute midges case. Without cancellations it would be U U2 M2 U2 R but I wanted to be fast so I went straight to U' M2 U2 R.
 

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I'll withhold judgement as well, but you do have to realize how incredibly unlikely it is that you would both get 3 overall PBs (and WBs) in such a short span of time as well as manage to capture them all on video?

but either way waterman looks cool and im glad that you're enjoying it
I beat the odds, i beat it.

thanks for the waterman look cool thing.
you do realize he's being sarcastic right...
yes, but when i was saying waterman lookahead is amazing, I was being serious. There is still no reason to be sarcastic here when I am trying to have a serious discussion here.
 

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This time I will try not to get in an argument about.
yet here you
I just post a sub-7 and people now just turn this into "faked solve" and sarcasm and jokes but it aint funny
The more recognition and praise you expect for "a sub-7" the more likely it seems to be fake. You should realize that the video is as much evidence as your word basically. So well. good for you and we hope to see some good solves from you at the comps!
Btw - I also managed to get a lucky single on camera!
 

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yet here you

The more recognition and praise you expect for "a sub-7" the more likely it seems to be fake. You should realize that the video is as much evidence as your word basically. So well. good for you and we hope to see some good solves from you at the comps!
Btw - I also managed to get a lucky single on camera!
in an argument? I was never in one today at least.

Yes I am aware about that, but people thought it was fake even before I started to do anything about it. I understand that the only evidence I have is video + word. YI wont compete in this weeks comp (no time) but I can try to do next week. I aint competed in a while so hopefully I see improvements.

The video isnt funny, ive heard enough sarcasm for the week
 

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yet here you

The more recognition and praise you expect for "a sub-7" the more likely it seems to be fake. You should realize that the video is as much evidence as your word basically. So well. good for you and we hope to see some good solves from you at the comps!
Btw - I also managed to get a lucky single on camera!
Sorry doesn't count, under 20 moves
 
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