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Started watching the first few parts, then decided it was best to try and let my wife learn it. Unfortunately she really, really didn't understand both WHAT she was supposed to do, and why she was supposed to do it. I had her write out her opinions as she watched, which I will post later. Here are some of my thoughts:

Part 1:
  • Spend a few seconds talking about the different types of pieces on the cube
  • Please show the formula first and explain what it is actually doing
  • Formula A seems pretty terrible honestly. Why not explain the simple 3 moves to do to get yellow up if it is in the lower right corner. (3 moves if yellow on left, 3 moves mirrored if yellow is on left
Part 2:
  • explain the color-matching of colors a bit more.
  • "Formula B" is an algorithm that requires memorizing. If we are doing that, there are other, very intuitive beginner methods that actually allow someone to understand what is happening when they solve.
  • Once again, to move a corner, simply "Down Over Up" then spin the top to the proper location and repeat, then spin back and repeat will solve it, and is an easy way to understand corner swapping

Part 3:
  • I like the intuitive figuring out of opposite color. Maybe explain how face colors are fixed on certain cubes
  • I see now why you are doing formula A, and it is very "simple", but once again I feel like there ways to teach it that actually allow the person to understand what they are doing.

Part 4:
  • Show what "matching" means again
  • Once again, your method (same way people solve corners on megaminx in beginner method) is very simple, but doesn't help the person understand anything about how the cube actually works. I understand there must be a trade off in a simple method, but this doesn't seem much different then someone learning any other beginner method that doesn't actually teach them about how the cube works.

Part 5:
  • Ran out of time, so will update later. From here on was where I am actually interested about. Being able to solve edges and centers intuitively would be a great thing to teach

Sorry if I am being very critical. I think there needs to be a distinction between an "easy" method, and a "intuitive" method. In my opinion an intuitive method requires the solver to understand what they are doing, and why it is accomplishing their goal. Without this, it is just following a formula, regardless of how simple that formula may be.
 
i will review and reply, but i recommend starting with the Wix site instead of the YouTube, i know that is counter-intuitive in today's world, but the Wix site shows graphics and starts from the very beginning. the videos were designed to go along with the wix site, not to stand alone per se. the reason i don't show intuitive moves and shortcuts is because formula a works both when it is the first placement on the cube and also when it is the last placement on the cube.

thanks for feedback
 
I think what you were going for is similar to the Waterman method.
1. Solve the white layer.
2. Solve the yellow corners (Orient then permute)
3. Solve the yellow Edges.
4. Permute Middle belt.

However, you decided:
1. Solve Yellow Corners (Place, Orient, then permute)
2. Solve white corners (Orient, then permute)
3. Solve Opposite (Yellow/white) edges.
4. Solve the middle-most opposite (Not for even layered cubes) (Yellow/white) centers
5. Solve middle belt.
For big cubes: Solve parity.
For big cubes: Solve remaining centers.
Overall, I think it is a good method.
 
TheEpicCuber said:
I think what you were going for is similar to the Waterman method.
1. Solve the white layer.
2. Solve the yellow corners (Orient then permute)
3. Solve the yellow Edges.
4. Permute Middle belt.

However, you decided:
1. Solve Yellow Corners (Place, Orient, then permute)
2. Solve white corners (Orient, then permute)
3. Solve Opposite (Yellow/white) edges.
4. Solve the middle-most opposite (Not for even layered cubes) (Yellow/white) centers
5. Solve middle belt.
For big cubes: Solve parity.
For big cubes: Solve remaining centers.
Overall, I think it is a good method.
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thanks.
 
Generated By csTimer on 2020-12-17
solves/total: 5/5

single
best: 50.36
worst: 1:49.98

mean of 3
current: 52.81 (σ = 2.80)
best: 52.81 (σ = 2.80)

avg of 5
current: 1:02.83 (σ = 15.33)
best: 1:02.83 (σ = 15.33)

Average: 1:02.83 (σ = 15.33)
Mean: 1:09.77

Time List:
1. 1:49.98 B2 F2 D' B2 U F2 R2 D2 U' F2 L2 R2 B D2 F2 L2 R' D2 B L2 R
2. 1:20.41 D' L B R2 B2 R2 U2 F' L2 B' U2 L2 U2 L U L U' L' F2 U2
3. 55.87 F2 D2 B2 D B2 U F2 L2 D L2 D2 L' F R F' D L' B2 L2 D2 B'
4. 52.21 F' L' R2 U R2 B2 L2 B2 U' L2 U2 B2 F D' R' U' L' F2 R' D'
5. 50.36 B2 D R' B U' B R' F2 U' F2 U2 L2 U' R2 B2 U2 B2 U' B' U'

I applied a bit of advanced techniques to my solves (such as CLL and better look-ahead)
 
i guess i really shouldn't have linked to the YouTube playlist, because it really isn't an intuitive stand-alone, i'm still filming that part, what is there is intended to go along with the steps laid out on the Wix site. all of the feedback is good, tho, and i appreciate it.

and y'all are right, i don't explain a lot (or any) to begin with, and even though the top layer is intuitive for most people, i teach the first four corners the exact same way the last four corners are done, so they are only learning one universal way. also, the entire first face can be done using Formula A, but i don't teach that because it only works on the first face, and i want to teach what works on all the faces. so now, it is not intuitive, and i don't use shortcuts for the beginning sections. that's why i say is it for non-cubers, who haven't studied how the cube works in and of itself.

basically, when someone says, can you really solve that? i just put the cube in their hands and walk them through the solve, no lead in, not preliminary training.
 
ABCubeTutor said:
i will review and reply, but i recommend starting with the Wix site instead of the YouTube, i know that is counter-intuitive in today's world, but the Wix site shows graphics and starts from the very beginning. the videos were designed to go along with the wix site, not to stand alone per se. the reason i don't show intuitive moves and shortcuts is because formula a works both when it is the first placement on the cube and also when it is the last placement on the cube.

thanks for feedback
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Ah ok. I thought youtube was meant to be standalone. I will watch in tandem with reading the wix tutorial then.
 
TheEpicCuber said:
I think what you were going for is similar to the Waterman method.
1. Solve the white layer.
2. Solve the yellow corners (Orient then permute)
3. Solve the yellow Edges.
4. Permute Middle belt.

However, you decided:
1. Solve Yellow Corners (Place, Orient, then permute)
2. Solve white corners (Orient, then permute)
3. Solve Opposite (Yellow/white) edges.
4. Solve the middle-most opposite (Not for even layered cubes) (Yellow/white) centers
5. Solve middle belt.
For big cubes: Solve parity.
For big cubes: Solve remaining centers.
Overall, I think it is a good method.
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okay, so what i'm hearing so far is:

ABCube is similar in steps but not method to Waterman and the Cage method

yes, that is the order of operation i recommend, but the thing about the two Formulas is that order of operation is actually irrelevant. except doing the twist to undo parity will undo center pieces, (which is why i do those last) No Formula B will ever undo previously placed pieces. that means that one can pick up any cube in any state of scramble or solve from any other method, and the final steps can be done with my formulas.

do you normally do the top layer last? no problem, this works. do you do the last three edges last? no problem, one twist or setup and the formula works. corners last? also works. so the order of operations is just a suggestion that i teach and follow,

first solve the equivalent of the 2x2x2, then the equivalent of the 3x3x3, , but a non-cubist doesn't already know which colors are opposite each other, and take the Void Cube, it has nonstandard colors, it is organic to start with the corners.

TheEpicCuber said:
I subscribed to your channel.
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thanks. i do have stand-alone vid tutorials planned, but they aren't filmed yet, my friend has the lights camera and mic.

Eamon said:
I cant visit your channel, can you give me a link?
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sorry, are you still having trouble?
 
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