best BLD method

[Stefan]

The method does make a difference, because with pochmann I find it very difficult to get sub60 execution times, if ever.

Which of my methods? The old one (3+1 main algs), the very old one (just 1 alg, the Tperm), or M2/R2? The latter I believe can be executed in about 40 seconds on average.

Whereas if I use some sort of cycle based method

"Whereas"? My methods *are* cycle based. When will people stop claiming it isn't?

 

[joey]

Which of my methods? The old one (3+1 main algs), the very old one (just 1 alg, the Tperm), or M2/R2? The latter I believe can be executed in about 40 seconds on average.

The old one(4 algs), is the one I am talking about. I have used M2 a few times, but not a full blindfold solve.

"Whereas"? My methods *are* cycle based. When will people stop claiming it isn't?

Sorry, I meant a 3-cycle method.

 

[hdskull]

in this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=JCkI2qh1SF4

leyan's memo and execution was 44 secs.

leyan's times are very consistent, here are his US Open times: 1:27.69 1:47.77 1:31.75
i think leyan's gonna be faster at WC if he goes.

hessler kinda proves my point because the 3 cycle can be done in sub 60 with 15 sec memo.

 

[hait2]

this thread inspired me to muck about with the current method i use (3cycle) and eliminate edge orientation from it completely. it wasn't hard either, as EO is so easy to manipulate. you just have to learn 4 associations (in one of which you do nothing). no new algs, just different (not harder!) setup moves

i'll practice it a bit and if it wasn't a waste of time, i'll see if i can do the same for CO (although to make it feasible, you'd have to memorize algs, about 8, else the setup moves get ridiculous)

 

[Mike Hughey]

hessler kinda proves my point because the 3 cycle can be done in sub 60 with 15 sec memo.

Since Rowe is having the approximately the same split of memorization to execution that Mátyás is having, I think it's a good demonstration that Mátyás's method isn't really more conducive to quick memorization. I don't think it's the method - it's the person. Mátyás and Rowe are both fantastically talented.

That being said, I'm planning on trying to learn Stefan's M2 and R2 methods soon - not because I hope they will improve my times, but because I want the insight as to how they work. And Daniel Beyer seems to think they're helpful for the middle edge pieces on the 5x5x5 BLD.

By the way, I'm still one of the unusual ones who remains bound by execution time rather than memorization time. Execution always takes me longer than memorization - I don't know why. Maybe my being still over 30 seconds at 3x3x3 speedsolving has something to do with it. I think I might be the fastest BLD solver in the world who's still that slow at the regular 3x3x3! (Of course I'm still very slow at 3x3x3 BLD - my best is about 3 minutes. But it's much more respectable than my 3x3x3 speedsolving time.)

 

[Erik]

M2 on 5x5 middle layer edges is a piece of cake

 

[Stefan]

As in, your orienting and permuting one corner piece and one edge piece.

Is that what was meant with "4 pieces"? You guys who separate orienting and permuting... perverts.

 

[Davepencilguin]

By the way, I'm still one of the unusual ones who remains bound by execution time rather than memorization time. Execution always takes me longer than memorization - I don't know why. Maybe my being still over 30 seconds at 3x3x3 speedsolving has something to do with it. I think I might be the fastest BLD solver in the world who's still that slow at the regular 3x3x3! (Of course I'm still very slow at 3x3x3 BLD - my best is about 3 minutes. But it's much more respectable than my 3x3x3 speedsolving time.)

I'm exactly the same way. That's why I'm trying to create a 3-cycle method that orients and permutes simultaneously.

This is a video of one of my solves(I know it's failed, but notice the 45 s. memorization.):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yfX7G3NYOX8

 

[ThePizzaGuy92]

dang, i do a horrible 4-step t-perm method. haha. i couldn't really understand macky's method, although i only spent like 4 minutes before giving up

 

[Davepencilguin]

I'm going to type up a basic guide and develop some setup moves on my "new" method.
Expect a guide tomorrow night (central time [GMT -6:00] for me), and if there isn't, feel free to yell at me for procrastinating.

A quick outline:
First, the corners are oriented
then, edges are both oriented and permuted while corners are permuted all (mostly) focusing on the T-permutation.

 

[hdskull]

this thread inspired me to muck about with the current method i use (3cycle) and eliminate edge orientation from it completely. it wasn't hard either, as EO is so easy to manipulate. you just have to learn 4 associations (in one of which you do nothing). no new algs, just different (not harder!) setup moves

i'll practice it a bit and if it wasn't a waste of time, i'll see if i can do the same for CO (although to make it feasible, you'd have to memorize algs, about 8, else the setup moves get ridiculous)

creating a guide soon ?

i think the restriction move for parities can be "unrestricted" to orient and permute at the same time. but i'm still a beginner so if what i say don't make sense ignore it, haha.

 

[Johannes91]

Nobody averages below 1:30 in an official competition

You probably meant "nobody has done an official average". But obviously, it's possible to calculate an average of their results.

Leyan and Tyson have had dozens of attempts, so it doesn't make sense to me to concentrate on just one or two of them. It's possible that there are solves that took 30 seconds to memorize and 60 execute (or 45 + 45), but that's not what they get regulary.

 

[Stefan]

I think that if all great blindfolders come to the WC next month, Mátiás will have a very hard time winning all blindfolded events, especially if you take the extra pressure and his age into consideration.

I'd bet let's say up to 50 Euros with you that Mátyás will win all four blindfold events.

 

[AvGalen]

I don't know if betting is illegal or not, but if it is allowed I will take that bet.

I will also take bets (1 bet and 1 euro per person) that I will win multiple blindfolded on a 1/1000 basis (meaning if I don't win you get 1 euro, if I do win I get 1000 euro)

 

[Erik]

wow, the stakes are certainly high arnaud xD

 

[hait2]

creating a guide soon ?

i think the restriction move for parities can be "unrestricted" to orient and permute at the same time. but i'm still a beginner so if what i say don't make sense ignore it, haha.

there's no need for a guide as of now, i could sum it up in 6 lines. maybe if i ever get around to figuring out CO, it might take up a paragraph. it's just a small extension to 3cycle, not a new method (and i'm happy to say it's going well!)

unless i misunderstood what you meant o_O;

 

[pjk]

Im in on the bet about Matyas winning all 4 BLD events. I will bet $5 USD. PM me to confirm if you are interested.