Race to Full ZB/ZBLL

I’m going to going this race
T- 6/72
Started yesterday, what recog method do you guys use? One of the reasons I learn slowly is because of recog.
 
Ok here we go,
H: 13/40
Pi: 6/72
L: 5/72
T: 4/72
U: 4/72
S: 3/72
As: 3/72

EDIT: also, does anybody know of any videos that explain two sided recog?
 
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I’m going to going this race
T- 6/72
Started yesterday, what recog method do you guys use? One of the reasons I learn slowly is because of recog.
Recognise COLL case, then look at the UFR corner and it’s surrounding stickers is what I do. E.g. There’s a 2x2x1 at UFR, the stickers are all adjacent to each other, etc.

493-21=482 (PLLs)
482-144=338 (AS and S) if I do them
338-30=308 (COLLs)
308-4=304 (ZBLLs learnt so far)
304 algs left to go! Also, should I learn AS and S???



Ok never mind, I read @Tao Yu ’s post from a while back, saying I should probably decide when I’ve finished everything else, as it is worth it, but gives less to you than learning other sets.
 
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As for the actual ZBLL cases, I ordered them by CC, CA, CO, AA, AC, AO, OO, OC, AC,
OxO, CxO, OxC. This helped to keep the document organized and neat.
This recognition system is called the Harris/Baum system, which compares the FU and RU edge
stickers to the FUR and RUF corner stickers, respectively. Jason Baum, again, has a great way
of explaining this on his website (I've modified this description slightly to account for our differences
in the lettering system):

There are three parts to recognizing ZBLL cases. First, you see what orientation case you
have. Then, you see what COLL case you have within that orientation. Finally, you see what
edge permutation you have within that COLL case. The first two steps should be fairly
straight forward, as long as your COLL is solid. However, recognizing the edges can be
tricky. Dan Harris came up with a pretty good way of recognizing this, and it is what I will
be using here. I've adapted some of the different cases to better suit me, but the core idea is
all his. Basically, there are four stickers you look at: FU, FUR, RUF, and RU. You are going
to determine the relationship between these stickers. Depending on the case you have, you
will either look at the relationship between FU and FUR-RUF and RU, or FU and RUF-
FUR and RU. The first relationship is more common. For example, FU and FUR could be
the same color, while RUF and RU could be opposite colors. This case is denoted as CO
(Correct/Opposite). The second relationship is less common and can be tricky to recognize
at first, but it gets easier with practice. These cases are denoted by an 'x', because the
stickers you are recognizing cross with each other. For example, if the case is OxO, that
means that FU and RUF are opposite, and FUR and RU are also opposite. CxO and OxC
are pretty tough to recognize, but this is the best way that I've found for me to deal with
them. Fortunately, the rest of the sticker relationships are very easy to recognize. There are
12 ways the stickers can possibly be.
This is a really good written description of a 2-sided recognition system called Harris/Baum. It's from this zbll google doc, second to last page of the intro before the algs start; I don't know if the algs are obsolete or if they're still good though.

I don't know of a video on 2-sided, but I'm sure you could search 'harris/baum zbll recognition' on YouTube and get a good result.
 
Updates and revival of this thread:
U and Pi are finished-- I haven't reviewed in a sec, so some are pretty iffy, but given enough time I could definitely get them all, just not on the first try.

I had moved on to working on H, so I'm familiar with it, but I stopped and really don't know them at this point anymore. Re-learning them will be easier though, since I know what to look for in recognition, and half know the algs.
 
how can u recognise 472 algs
First, recognise OCLL case. We all know how to do this. Next, recognise COLL case. You generally have to look at 4 stickers to figure out the case. Lastly, recognise ZBLL. Generally, learn this recognition like you would PLL, look for patterns on the the side of the cube.

If you practise, the recog is decently fast. OCLL recog is pretty much instant, COLL might take a quick glance, and ZBLL could be a second or maybe less.
 
how can u recognise 472 algs
A lot of practice.

When you initially learn OCLL, you might just be looking at the yellow stickers, but you also see the other stickers too, you just ignore them. When you learn COLL, you start to see some of the patterns on the corner pieces. It takes a little bit at first, but for some cases you just take in the COLL information at the same time as OCLL.
Once you move up to ZBLL, its the same sort of thing. None of the information is new, you've just been ignoring it. COLL recognition is basically instant and while there are a lot more cases, ZBLL just starts to feel natural.

While I certainly don't know full ZBLL, I do know over 300 cases, and would say that at least 200 of them I'd be able to recognize in an instant (given the right angle, because I haven't learned multiple angles yet). It might not something that you thing is possible unless you've put in time, but it isn't as hard as you might think-- it just takes a long time to learn.
 
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