F2L w/ algs vs. Full PLL vs. Full OLL

[DarkLightA]

Which ones should I do first/last?

 

[nitrocan]

First full PLL, then learn the rest simultaneously.

 

[pjk]

Other: F2L intuitive continued

 

[trying-to-speedcube...]

Learn Full PLL, but keep practising F2L (algs are really not necessary) slow down, look ahead, LL will come later

(how many times has this answer been given on this forum?)

 

[kickinwing2112]

intuitive f2l, easier to learn than algs

 

[abr71310]

Good progression (what I use: I'm at ~35 - 40 sec still):

F2L (go about 1/4 algs, rest are mainly mirrors/specials, break them down into 2-steps) --> 2-step OLL/PLL (3step OLL if you need to) --> 3-step LL (full PLL, where I am now) --> Full F2L / Lookahead --> 2-step LL (learn OLL AFTER PLL)

 

[Paul Wagner]

f2l with algs is pointless

 

[Escher]

i beg to differ -

http://www.cubefreak.net/Fridrich/F2L_advanced.html

some of these are awesome.

anyway, you do algorithms for f2l all the time, you just haven't learnt them that way.

 

[kajitatsu]

Continue with F2L intuitively until you can understand what to do and learn maybe 4-5 algorithms, the rest are just handy tricks! PLL and OLL are easy to learn - just slightly time consuming

 

[Ellis]

Which ones should I do first/last?

HEY... why did you say it like that? I automatically thought you meant last just because I read it last. I voted full OLL and then I read the actual title of the poll and it says now.


I'd say do full PLL now while learning F2L algs for any cases that you're doing more than 8 or so moves. Try to keep F2L mostly intuitive but don't wait to look at algs if you're taking like 11 moves to solve a specific pair. And really be checking to make sure you've got low F2L movecounts. After that you can go to full OLL.

 

[shadowclad002]

[QUOTE](full PLL, where I am now) --> Full F2L / Lookahead --> 2-step LL (learn OLL AFTER PLL)
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PB Single: 24.21 seconds || PB Average: 31.95 seconds (of 5) || Currently: 11/21 (PLLs Learned) [/QUOTE]

HEy Abr, have you learned full PLL or not?

 

[Zeroknight]

Other, and
4LLL (2LOLL and 2LPLL or full PLL)

 

[abr71310]

[QUOTE](full PLL, where I am now) --> Full F2L / Lookahead --> 2-step LL (learn OLL AFTER PLL)
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PB Single: 24.21 seconds || PB Average: 31.95 seconds (of 5) || Currently: 11/21 (PLLs Learned)

HEy Abr, have you learned full PLL or not?[/QUOTE]

Its what I have to learn next... That's why I said "Where I am now"...