is 45 degrees reverse corner cutting possible???

[cuber314159]

is it?
would it be feasible?
or would it make the cube very unstable if it was?

 

[Sajwo]

do you have a 3x3?

 

[JustAnotherGenericCuber]

It would just forward cut 45

 

[applezfall]

lol with the new cubes when you get to 45 degrees reverse the cube just does a normal corner cut

 

[adimare]

At 45 degrees, there's no distinction between corner cutting and reverse corner cutting.

 

[cuber314159]

lol with the new cubes when you get to 45 degrees reverse the cube just does a normal corner cut

But would it be possible to create a cube that can corner cut 45 and reverse corner cut 45 and be a good cube. Have cube companies reached the limit of corner cutting with 55 normal 35 reverse or would it be better to have more reverse corner cutting at the expense of normal corner cutting.

 

[applezfall]

But would it be possible to create a cube that can corner cut 45 and reverse corner cut 45 and be a good cube. Have cube companies reached the limit of corner cutting with 55 normal 35 reverse or would it be better to have more reverse corner cutting at the expense of normal corner cutting.

do you own a 3x3 .45 degrees is in the middle of the turn so it will do normal corner cutting no matter what

 

[cuber314159]

do you own a 3x3 .45 degrees is in the middle of the turn so it will do normal corner cutting no matter what

Yes, with a cube today but what if you had a cube that could reverse corner cut there, when the fangshi shaungren came out it was revolutionary because it had 45 degrees corner cutting, would the same with reverse be possible

 

[applezfall]

Yes, with a cube today but what if you had a cube that could reverse corner cut there, when the fangshi shaungren came out it was revolutionary because it had 45 degrees corner cutting, would the same with reverse be possible

cmaon its useless if its at 45 degrees it doesnt matter what direction will cut

 

[DGCubes]

cmaon its useless if its at 45 degrees it doesnt matter what direction will cut

I'm not sure you get what he's saying. Right now, cube companies have mostly maxed out corner cutting at 55 degrees forward and 35 degrees reverse (give or take), but that doesn't mean they couldn't change those numbers. Personally I think most modern cubes really need to work on reverse corner cutting, as the lack of it on some cubes (or the force required to do it) can cause lock-ups. I'd really like to see a cube that requires as little force to reverse corner cut as it does to regular corner cut, and one that can reverse cut around 45 degrees.

And yes, it does matter which direction it will cut. Try doing U R on a cube, but only turning the U face 45-50 degrees before you start the R. Even though that would be extremely efficient turning, there is definitely a problem if the cube isn't doing the moves you want it to.

Sure, when a cube is misaligned by 45 degrees, the desired turn can be ambiguous, but I still think the 55-35 limits should be closer to 45-45.

 

[applezfall]

I'm not sure you get what he's saying. Right now, cube companies have mostly maxed out corner cutting at 55 degrees forward and 35 degrees reverse (give or take), but that doesn't mean they couldn't change those numbers. Personally I think most modern cubes really need to work on reverse corner cutting, as the lack of it on some cubes (or the force required to do it) can cause lock-ups. I'd really like to see a cube that requires as little force to reverse corner cut as it does to regular corner cut, and one that can reverse cut around 45 degrees.

And yes, it does matter which direction it will cut. Try doing U R on a cube, but only turning the U face 45-50 degrees before you start the R. Even though that would be extremely efficient turning, there is definitely a problem if the cube isn't doing the moves you want it to.

Sure, when a cube is misaligned by 45 degrees, the desired turn can be ambiguous, but I still think the 55-35 limits should be closer to 45-45.

I get your point but I think they should keep the corner cutting the same but just make it require less force to cut cause that would be more useful

 

[cuber314159]

(cube: forward corner cutting; reverse corner cutting)
Gts2: 57;34
Valk M: 55;35
MF3RS: 55;31
Warrior w: 45;31
MF mini 3x3x3: 56;34 with quite alot of force

Can anyone add to my database?

 

[DGCubes]

(cube: forward corner cutting; reverse corner cutting)
Gts2: 57;34
Valk M: 55;35
MF3RS: 55;31
Warrior w: 45;31
MF mini 3x3x3: 56;34 with quite alot of force

Can anyone add to my database?

I don't think you can quantify corner cutting that precisely. A lot of it comes down to his you tension your cube, which is really personal preference.

Also, how are you getting those numbers?

 

[cuber314159]

I don't think you can quantify corner cutting that precisely. A lot of it comes down to his you tension your cube, which is really personal preference.

Also, how are you getting those numbers?

Protractor, it's kind of hard to line up properly but I think the figures are ok but not perfect. Funny thing is I had most of those cubes laid out then my sister(average 2 minutes at 3x3x3) started testing corner cutting(I was surprised she knew what it was)

 

[heyitsconnor]

(cube: forward corner cutting; reverse corner cutting)
Gts2: 57;34
Valk M: 55;35
MF3RS: 55;31
Warrior w: 45;31
MF mini 3x3x3: 56;34 with quite alot of force

Can anyone add to my database?

Mf?

 

[cuber314159]

MF= Mofang jiaoshi

 

[heyitsconnor]

Call it MFJS plz

 

[I_<3_SCS]

kk
魔方教室: lit. cubing classroom

source: worked in red light district in china for a few years

 

[Dancing Jules]

I'm not sure whether it's even physically possible to produce a cube that does more reverse corner cutting than forwards corner cutting. If you tried to imagine, the most corner-cutty cube possible:

If you apply R', the corner can't slide off to the right - because of the symmetry.

 

[heyitsconnor]

What about something with gigantic florian cuts?