Magnets Discussion and Help thread

[One Wheel]

I finally finished my magnetized big sail project this morning. 5x2mm n52 magnets. It's a painfully easy cube to put magnets in. As predicted the magnets are pretty strong, and it ends up with a weird, clunky feel for hand solving, but initial impressions for feet are that it's fantastic.

 

[TheChaiCuber]

Hi guys, I've since switched my 4x4 main from the blue to the wuque, and since my blue is now just sitting around i want to try to magnetize it. Two questions:
1. should I be using weaker magnets? everything is closer together within a single piece so I'm not sure. I'm looking at N35 magnets and if anyone knows of a weaker magnet I should use please reply with your thoughts.
2. this is a stupid question, but is standard superglue ok? just wondering.

Thanks

 

[pipkiksass]

Hi guys, I've since switched my 4x4 main from the blue to the wuque, and since my blue is now just sitting around i want to try to magnetize it. Two questions:
1. should I be using weaker magnets? everything is closer together within a single piece so I'm not sure. I'm looking at N35 magnets and if anyone knows of a weaker magnet I should use please reply with your thoughts.
2. this is a stupid question, but is standard superglue ok? just wondering.

Thanks

N35 is a grade of magnet, strength depends on size, so you will need smaller N35s for a 4x4 than you would for a 3x3.

I believe standard superglue is OK, there are a number of tutorials available on YouTube which recommend 2 part epoxy or Gorilla Glue.


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[newtonbase]

I liked using the gel superglue. It's easier to control than the runny stuff.

 

[jaredye]

Hi guys, I've since switched my 4x4 main from the blue to the wuque, and since my blue is now just sitting around i want to try to magnetize it. Two questions:
1. should I be using weaker magnets? everything is closer together within a single piece so I'm not sure. I'm looking at N35 magnets and if anyone knows of a weaker magnet I should use please reply with your thoughts.
2. this is a stupid question, but is standard superglue ok? just wondering.

Thanks

Let us know how it goes. I'm also thinking about magnetizing my Cangfeng 4x4. I guess using smaller but stronger magnets might be preferable, since 4x4 are so heavy to begin with. I'm gonna try N52 3mm*1mm magnets. As for glue, I used Gorilla Gel and it works perfect. I think Gel glue is stronger and more resistant to shocks.

 

[Chree]

Wish me luck!

Step One: Experiment https://imgur.com/gallery/qwaR0

Step Two: Separate https://imgur.com/gallery/PwlSH

Step 3: Disassemble and Sort https://imgur.com/gallery/mqsWL

Step 4: Pair Them Up (Edit: Not needed, kinda wastes time)
https://imgur.com/gallery/7Gt78

Step 5: Glue Magnets to Templates https://imgur.com/a/RQuuy

Step 6: Use Templates to Guide Placement https://imgur.com/a/t68hV
Step 6b: Use Templates to Guide Placement https://imgur.com/a/g3DSG
Step 6c: now you have lots of templates... things get faster. https://imgur.com/a/bKwQA
Step 6d: Multiple pairs drying at once (Notice that by this point I've abandoned pre-sorted pairs) https://imgur.com/a/riqcB
Step 6e: Assembly Line magnet dumping https://imgur.com/a/PwuFc

Towards the end I was doing it all assembly line style. Line up empty pieces with space in between, dump a magnet, and bring in the "templates"... carefully. Give it all a wiggle to ensure placement, and put drops of superglue on everything at once.

Step 6f: All done! https://imgur.com/a/efNo7

Step 7: Reassembly https://imgur.com/a/jIjjc
A lot easier when you don't care about the order of things.

 

[One Wheel]

Wish me luck!

Step One: Experiment https://imgur.com/gallery/qwaR0

Someday I'll be crazy or ambitious enough to do that. Maybe. What magnets and cube are you starting with?

 

[Dom]

@James Snowden @One Wheel

He used only 4 magnets used just to see how it would work. Not bad.

 

[Chree]

Someday I'll be crazy or ambitious enough to do that. Maybe. What magnets and cube are you starting with?

That's a WeiChuang, and I used 1/8" x 1/16" N42 magnets. I don't know that 2mm x 4mm would've fit.

It's heavier, that's for sure. The magnetic feel is almost negligible, though. So I probably should've gone a bit stronger. Either way, it's performing OK. Still tweaking the tensions... now that it's a bit slower, it needs adjusting.

Not yet convinced this was a good idea.

 

[newtonbase]

Not yet convinced this was a good idea.

Even if the cube hasn't turned out great then just trying it was still a good idea.

It'll be interesting to see how you end up tensioning it. Magnetised 3X3's can go very loose.

 

[TheChaiCuber]

I'm having trouble figuring out how to magnetize the inner layers on the yuxin blue. the struggle is gonna be the death of me lol #helpppppppp

Edit: the best idea i have is to not magnetize the edges but instead magnetize the centers. however on the blue it seems like the caps are superglued and i don't want to make any moves without other suggestions first.

 

[One Wheel]

I'm having trouble figuring out how to magnetize the inner layers on the yuxin blue. the struggle is gonna be the death of me lol #helpppppppp

Edit: the best idea i have is to not magnetize the edges but instead magnetize the centers. however on the blue it seems like the caps are superglued and i don't want to make any moves without other suggestions first.

I haven't tried magnetizing a 4x4, but I think on an even layered cube you will have to put magnets in the large inner T shaped pieces to line up with the wings. You'll probably have to drill it out.

 

[Chree]

Update on the Magnetic WeiChuang: I love this thing.

Overview in the Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[shadowslice e]

Has anyone tried using buckyballs in the cubes?

 

[One Wheel]

NVM! i figured it out! now to sort out the polarities so I don't waste an entire cube haha xD

Make a stack of all your magnets, mark the end one with a permanent marker, take that one off, repeat.

 

[supercavitation]

That's a WeiChuang, and I used 1/8" x 1/16" N42 magnets. I don't know that 2mm x 4mm would've fit.

It's heavier, that's for sure. The magnetic feel is almost negligible, though. So I probably should've gone a bit stronger. Either way, it's performing OK. Still tweaking the tensions... now that it's a bit slower, it needs adjusting.

Not yet convinced this was a good idea.

4mm x 2mm magnets fit in Weichuang pieces. Citation: That's essentially what I put in mine.

 

[One Wheel]

For some reason I can find 4x2mm n35 but not n42 magnets. What would you recommend for this project? I'm seriously tempted to do this with my Weichuang.

 

[TheChaiCuber]

I made my yuxin blue magnetic guys! i underestimated how many magnets i needed so I'm missing magnets in 5 more corner pieces, but essentially the cube feels pretty cool. Recommendation and tip for anyone who wants to try this: try slightly weaker magnets than n35 4x2 for the inner layers. my inner layers feel great at edge pairing but i can tell it really lags a bit during PLL parity. my inner layers also realign themselves at 1/3 a piece, so I'm not even sure if it'd be comp legal lol.

 

[Dom]

I made my yuxin blue magnetic guys! i underestimated how many magnets i needed so I'm missing magnets in 5 more corner pieces, but essentially the cube feels pretty cool. Recommendation and tip for anyone who wants to try this: try slightly weaker magnets than n35 4x2 for the inner layers. my inner layers feel great at edge pairing but i can tell it really lags a bit during PLL parity. my inner layers also realign themselves at 1/3 a piece, so I'm not even sure if it'd be comp legal lol.

You are my hero. Teach me, wise one!
Video! Or pictures at least.

 

[TheChaiCuber]

You are my hero. Teach me, wise one!
Video! Or pictures at least.

i will prolly later. right now I'm super gassed from this project it took me nearly 10 hours in total to make. need to ZZZZZZ