Proposal: Allowing audio equipment during official attempts

Do you think audio equipment should be allowed?

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Using headphones just makes cheating easier for cheaters. If you're super slow and need to listen to algs being recited - which wouldn't improve your time as much as learning the alg would - it's still cheating.
Yes we're already operating on a trust system. Competitors shouldn't talk about scrambles that not everyone has completed, but there is no simple way to stop them from doing that. Keeping headphones banned prevents more people from cheating and that's why it should stay banned IMO. Sorry Sajwo.
 
biscuit said:
Well Cubing isn't a sport, but I get your point.
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According to the Arnold Classic Europe website, we are a sport :)

http://www.arnoldclassiceurope.es/2016/deportes/

Following with the thread topic, I love to cube with music and home and I have better times while listening to metal songs but I think music shouldn't be allowed in competitions for obvious reasons (most of them already said above)
 
Umm Roux? said:
Edit: We could let them select songs that the judges(or a delegate) downloads then the judge selects it prior to the solve.
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There are thousands and thousands of songs out there, and what if the judges/delegates only pick 20 or so? One person who may want to listen to music may like none of these songs, and thus would be faced with a disadvantage to others who do. Plus, the amount of time it would take to download these songs for everyone who wants one at a 500+ person competition is more time that could be spent doing actual solves. Not to mention that these songs would need to be downloaded immediately before the person's solves, because otherwise they could just make an alg-track and give it that name, in between getting the song and solving.
 
DGCubes said:
Define music. What if my favorite song happens to have the lyrics, "R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'?" If this were to be allowed, the judges/delegates would have to check what you're listening to beforehand, and there are ways to get around that anyway (e.g. by naming your alg-track "Shake It Off.mp3"). So this would mean that they'd have to actually listen to the songs themselves, which could STILL be altered and have algorithms or other information hidden inside them near the end. If I have a ten hour long playlist and want to listen to it while competing, a judge or delegate would theoretically have to listen to the entire thing before letting me solve, if we want to be positive I'm not cheating.

As far as it possibly helping people to deal with stress, here's my personal stance on that:
Part of a competition for anything, not just cubing, is dealing with stress. If you are unable to deal with stress and get bad official times because of that, you should set aside time outside of competitions to learn how to handle stress. If some hypothetical person who averages sub-6 at home fails every competition and gets 10 second averages, they obviously can't handle the stress and don't deserve the win.

We've been doing it without music this whole time, and the people who truly deserve the good times (those who are fast AND can handle competition stress) have still been getting them. I really don't see music as practical or necessary in cubing competitions.
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This was honestly the perfect explanation, In think he summed it up.. Dont allow music
 
I wake up this morning, and I see that there were over 65 replies to this thread, but do we really need that many?

There are too many loopholes, so a rule allowing music/earbuds would be difficult to enforce.

With earbuds in, you could do soooo many things to get algs fed to your brain. To be fair, it more than likely won't help the faster people, but who knows? Maybe they couldn't remember for the life of them whether the alg included an R or an R', and by complete coincidence, the alg they needed was in the "song" they made.
 
Alright, no one has mentioned this yet so I'm gonna bring it up. Anyone sub-30 or even sub-40 could fairly easily get world record average if this was allowed.

How to do it:
  1. Bring a camera connected to software that looks at the cube and creates a sub-30 move solution (Perfectly legal to use a camera during solves)
  2. Have another software which converts each turn (R, U, F) into a musical note. (Wouldn't be visible to judges since it's software and not hardware)
  3. Connect the musical feed via bluetooth to headphones and have the tempo be 6 turns per second (Could be increased up to 10 with some practice I think. 2 second solve?)
  4. Show the cube to the camera during inspection
  5. Perform the turns given to you (Not hard to do since you just turn your brain off and listen to the notes, it would be like performing an algorithm)
  6. Get easy world record average or single with almost no work.
 
Loiloiloi said:
Alright, no one has mentioned this yet so I'm gonna bring it up. Anyone sub-30 or even sub-40 could fairly easily get world record average if this was allowed.

How to do it:
  1. Bring a camera connected to software that looks at the cube and creates a sub-30 move solution (Perfectly legal to use a camera during solves)
  2. Have another software which converts each turn (R, U, F) into a musical note. (Wouldn't be visible to judges since it's software and not hardware)
  3. Connect the musical feed via bluetooth to headphones and have the tempo be 6 turns per second (Could be increased up to 10 with some practice I think. 2 second solve?)
  4. Show the cube to the camera during inspection
  5. Perform the turns given to you (Not hard to do since you just turn your brain off and listen to the notes, it would be like performing an algorithm)
  6. Get easy world record average or single with almost no work.
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That's a thing?
 
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