I need help

StickerPeeler

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I started with beginners method, and averaged about forty seconds. Now I have been using cfop for three months, and I have been sitting at 40 seconds for two months. My times haven't changed at all!!! I use lookahead and I know all the cases for f2l, and I practice for at least an hour a day, sometimes two or three. What should I do?
 
Sometimes it's just slow. I was stuck around 42 seconds or so for several months, and lately I've improved to around 35-38. The line is probably in a different place for everybody, but as a fellow slow cuber I am convinced that at some point there's just an element of natural ability that's required to be really fast. I'm sure that the vast majority of people can be faster than you and I are right now, but I know not everybody can be world-class. Some things that helped me were doing a little OH solving, and solving bigger cubes (mostly 4x4). What algs do you know? If you're working with a 4LLL It seemed to me to be worthwhile to learn full PLL. Definitely full PLL before full OLL. It's also possible if you're working with algs for f2l you might be taking too long with recognition. I don't know, I've never really used specific algs for f2l since I switched to CFOP. You might also try messing with different methods. I've heard a lot of good things about Roux, though I haven't learned it yet. ZZ is also fascinating. And although I'm hopelessly slow at it but I've been having a lot of fun with Petrus the last few days. I'm mostly working on Petrus to help with FMC.
 
Practice plays the biggest role in improving, but if you are practicing and don't see any improvement from it then you need to ask yourself if you're pushing yourself and trying new things during practice, or just continuously reinforcing the same habits that get you 40 second solves. I strongly believe that anyone can get to sub 20 with a bit of dedication, but there will be times where you get stuck and need to figure out what you are doing wrong.

A hint: when I was around 35 seconds, I got stuck because I didn't understand how moves I did were affecting pieces. If I closed my eyes, I could only follow one piece at a time. I spent some time tracking three pieces with my eyes closed and that helped a lot. It also helps reduce wasteful moves because more moves makes it harder to track pieces.

Film yourself and you'll see the constant pauses as you look for pieces. Your goal in getting faster should not be turning quicker, but should be eliminating those pauses.
 
In addition to the above, and as much as it's difficult when you're addicted, take a break for a few days / a week.
 
Film yourself and you'll see the constant pauses as you look for pieces. Your goal in getting faster should not be turning quicker, but should be eliminating those pauses.
Now that AlphaSheep said this, I think I need to practice eliminating those pauses. Thanks!
 
Sometimes it's just slow. I was stuck around 42 seconds or so for several months, and lately I've improved to around 35-38. The line is probably in a different place for everybody, but as a fellow slow cuber I am convinced that at some point there's just an element of natural ability that's required to be really fast. I'm sure that the vast majority of people can be faster than you and I are right now, but I know not everybody can be world-class. Some things that helped me were doing a little OH solving, and solving bigger cubes (mostly 4x4). What algs do you know? If you're working with a 4LLL It seemed to me to be worthwhile to learn full PLL. Definitely full PLL before full OLL. It's also possible if you're working with algs for f2l you might be taking too long with recognition. I don't know, I've never really used specific algs for f2l since I switched to CFOP. You might also try messing with different methods. I've heard a lot of good things about Roux, though I haven't learned it yet. ZZ is also fascinating. And although I'm hopelessly slow at it but I've been having a lot of fun with Petrus the last few days. I'm mostly working on Petrus to help with FMC.
Thanks, One Wheel! I know 2 look Oll and 2 look Pll, so I'll try to learn full Pll before full Oll. I'll also try using bigger cubes, like you suggested. I'm going to try to learn ZZ! Thanks again!
 
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