Older cubers discussions

[mafergut]

Heh. Just do what makes you more joy. I think I wont back to CFOP on 3x3 when I see I'm progressing.

My only concern is whether the lack of CFOP practise in 3x3 can make me slower at big cubes or even make me forget some algs (mainly OLLs).

 

[muchacho]

Try, maybe it's more difficult to get slower than you think, or you can regain it easily later, or maybe you'll just drop CFOP, or you drop Roux but you have learned something useful (COLL recognition and some algs?).

3x3OH
Ao5: 58.318 (was 1:04.567 from 4-may)
Ao12: 1:03.544 (was 1:08.88 from 16-may)

 

[mafergut]

Try, maybe it's more difficult to get slower than you think, or you can regain it easily later, or maybe you'll just drop CFOP, or you drop Roux but you have learned something useful (COLL recognition and some algs?).

3x3OH
Ao5: 58.318 (was 1:04.567 from 4-may)
Ao12: 1:03.544 (was 1:08.88 from 16-may)

Yeah, I definitely plan on trying again but I don't really think it's possible to completely drop CFOP, at least for even layered big cubes. Now that I think of it, do you use Roux on big cubes?
Congrats on those OH PBs.

 

[muchacho]

I only know Roux... I've only done 2-3 solves on a 5x5, but Roux was just fine, even if I were not using Roux I'm not sure if I'll try to speedsolve cubes bigger than that anyway, but the 3x3 stage on those may not be that important.

Thanks. It's strange, I'm not practicing OH (112 solves in last 30 days, including those for WC and reddit weekly comp and some warm-up), and even so I'm improving, I think I'm going to give OH a chance and practice "a lot" for a few days.

 

[mafergut]

I only know Roux... I've only done 2-3 solves on a 5x5, but Roux was just fine, even if I were not using Roux I'm not sure if I'll try to speedsolve cubes bigger than that anyway, but the 3x3 stage on those may not be that important.

Thanks. It's strange, I'm not practicing OH (112 solves in last 30 days, including those for WC and reddit weekly comp and some warm-up), and even so I'm improving, I think I'm going to give OH a chance and practice "a lot" for a few days.

OH is fun and, even though I don't practise lately (just the 5 WC scrambles every week and maybe another 5-10 as warm-up) I am not getting worse, I even beat my PB Ao5 this week even if just by 0.07. I think you could improve significantly by focusing on it for some weeks and then just maintain more or less your level. It worked for me with 4x4 this month and I hope it will work as well with 5x5
So, how do you approach Roux for 4x4? Is it difficult to detect the parity cases? I assume that you would realize "OLL" parity during EO and "PLL" parity during or after L6E?

 

[muchacho]

After CMLL I have to usually look to the bottom to see if there is OLL parity, and then I just wait for the other after LSE. Probably there are better ways to handle it (like detect it sooner or solving both at the same time), but like so it's very easy to detect, and just 2 algs (but I'm learning for example one to flip 3 dedges instead of one to get easier EO).

edit: And I'm learning Meyer, it's like Yau for Roux, https://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/Meyer_method

 

[h2f]

There's a dedicated method on 4x4 based on Roux. There's a tutorial on yt by PDF and here somewhere in threads.

Edit: I've found it.

 

[mafergut]

There's a dedicated method on 4x4 based on Roux. There's a tutorial on yt by PDF and here somewhere in threads.

Edit: I've found it.

I'll check it out
By the way, the new Yuxin 4x4 and 6x6 can be purchased already from Lightake
What should I do? Buy the 6x6? Wait until there are more reviews out there? Buy the 4x4 as well ? I need help

 

[h2f]

I wont help. I'm gonna to purchase Fisher Cube and Ghost Cube.

 

[mafergut]

I wont help. I'm gonna to purchase Fisher Cube and Ghost Cube.

After having bought a fisher type cube (the Moyu crazy yileng), a mirrorblocks, a mastermorphix and an axis which I have solved like once each of them (well, the mirrorblocks maybe 3 times) I have to say that I get bored fast of all these 3x3 shapemods. I also can say that I will eventually buy a Ghost... which I'll solve once or twice as well, but I don't like the fangcun one (the blue plastic is especially ugly) and Mefferts' is a bit expensive ($36). So, next time somebody wants to make me a present I will say "a Mefferts ghost, please"

 

[phreaker]

Greetings from another "elderly" cuber.

Learning ZZ and mostly solving OH, so all the PLLs I'm learning are OH, which will probably need to be replaced 2H at some point in some cases. Looking at Roux, but the block building is so strange w/o, EO, after ZZ.

 

[h2f]

Greetings from another "elderly" cuber.

Learning ZZ and mostly solving OH, so all the PLLs I'm learning are OH, which will probably need to be replaced 2H at some point in some cases. Looking at Roux, but the block building is so strange w/o, EO, after ZZ.

Hi.

 

[earth2dan]

Holy smokes! I really just can't keep up with this thread. You guys are great

I meant the Most Likes list which is pretty much a list of older cubers
https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/members/?type=likes

I love this!

I'll check it out
By the way, the new Yuxin 4x4 and 6x6 can be purchased already from Lightake
What should I do? Buy the 6x6? Wait until there are more reviews out there? Buy the 4x4 as well ? I need help

I expect I'll be getting both, but not from Lightake. Their prices are great, but over the past year their shipping has gotten worse and worse (at least to Canada). The last 3 orders I've placed have taken 2+ months to arrive, in fact I'm still waiting on one. Each time I say the same thing "I wish I had just paid the extra few dollars and ordered from somewhere else". So that's what I'll do this time

Also, great job at the Boston comp @kbrune. It must feel great setting official PB's.

 

[mafergut]

Welcome, @phreaker!!!! You will feel at home here. Curious that you mostly solve OH It's not common, I'd say.
@earth2dan, probably that new Yuxin 4x4 will be better out of the box than the G4 but the shades will never be so nice

 

[earth2dan]

@earth2dan, probably that new Yuxin 4x4 will be better out of the box than the G4 but the shades will never be so nice

I've got to admit, that G4 is breaking in nicely. I'm still catching on middle layers, but not nearly as bad as it was. I did a handful of solves this weekend with both my AoSu and my G4 and overall the G4 was less than 2 seconds slower. I still haven't lubed or adjusted it at all, just breaking it in. We might have something here

 

[newtonbase]

Hi @phreaker. Welcome to the thread.

I've got to admit, that G4 is breaking in nicely. I'm still catching on middle layers, but not nearly as bad as it was. I did a handful of solves this weekend with both my AoSu and my G4 and overall the G4 was less than 2 seconds slower. I still haven't lubed or adjusted it at all, just breaking it in. We might have something here

My G4 is lovely but I misplaced it so started using my unbroken spare and I couldn't believe how catchy it was. Luckily I found my main.
I've given up on Lightake due to the awful delivery times. I use Champion's Cube Store for everything now.

 

[phreaker]

Welcome, @phreaker!!!! You will feel at home here. Curious that you mostly solve OH It's not common, I'd say.
@earth2dan, probably that new Yuxin 4x4 will be better out of the box than the G4 but the shades will never be so nice

Well, it is a bit of two birds with one stone. Everyone says "slow down your F2L and think it through more" I find it helps me slow down .

In addition it strengthens my left hand, which is something I really need, to go faster.

That and it is just damn cool to solve a cube OH, and on a plane, it takes up less space .

 

[phreaker]

Holy smokes! I really just can't keep up with this thread. You guys are great


I love this!


I expect I'll be getting both, but not from Lightake. Their prices are great, but over the past year their shipping has gotten worse and worse (at least to Canada). The last 3 orders I've placed have taken 2+ months to arrive, in fact I'm still waiting on one. Each time I say the same thing "I wish I had just paid the extra few dollars and ordered from somewhere else". So that's what I'll do this time

Also, great job at the Boston comp @kbrune. It must feel great setting official PB's.

Ah the advantage of being an older cuber .

People keep acting like cubing is an expensive hobby, compared to most adult ones, it isn't bad at all.

 

[Jason Green]

Welcome @phreaker! Interesting points on why to focus on one hand. It makes some sense. As I have said I struggle with slow turning.

On the stackmat times, I think the other thing for me is I focus more consistently. With my phone sometimes I reach to stop it during the last U turn for example, but there are times I realise I'm not done and it messes up my finish. With the mat I am more committed to finishing accurately before I drop the cube. It's not intentional but it just seems to be the case.

 

[earth2dan]

My G4 is lovely but I misplaced it so started using my unbroken spare and I couldn't believe how catchy it was. Luckily I found my main.
I've given up on Lightake due to the awful delivery times. I use Champion's Cube Store for everything now.

I'm starting to understand the love/hate for the G4. It seems if you're willing to put in the time to break it in, it gets really nice. But man oh man, it's bad out of the box...
I really like Champion's Cube Store as well. That's where I bought my very first speedcube (a ShengShou Aurora) . I also bought my 13x13 there, they had the best price and he DHL'd it to me in 2 days!

Ah the advantage of being an older cuber .
People keep acting like cubing is an expensive hobby, compared to most adult ones, it isn't bad at all.

No kidding! I've had to drop other hobbies, mainly because time and budget just didn't permit them anymore. As far as adult hobbies go, cubing is definitely on the affordable side. I've spent less in 2+ years of cubing than any other hobby I've ever pursued.

On the stackmat times, I think the other thing for me is I focus more consistently. With my phone sometimes I reach to stop it during the last U turn for example, but there are times I realise I'm not done and it messed up my finish. With the mat I am more committed to finishing accurately before I drop the cube. It's not intentional but it just seems to be the case.

I do this all the time on my phone timer. It's a problem I need to work on. I've never used a stackmat timer :/