mark49152
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I don't use Spanish words, but for audio I do use different sounds from the English norm, to disambiguate the letters and/or allow for better word sounds. For example, Q is "sh" and H is "th".
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muchacho
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K for words like "cuna" may work, I'll try that. There are (hopefully) enough words starting with Z and Q, and enough remaining for C.
Q is the first one I've tried to fill (for now all words starting with Q), but there are still 5 or 6 missing.
I think (I've only learned some bits about corners) that I'll execute corners first and edges (M2) last, and I'll use numbers for corners (numbers kind of make sense for the boomerang method http://renslay.byethost11.com/boomerang.html).
My memory is awful (audio may work, visual not), this is gonna be fun, and by fun I mean totally painful.
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muchacho
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Sounds interesting, but hope I don't have to resort to that too much.
Some examples, please? my English is not very good (I know few words and probably many of them I don't know how to say them correctly).
moralsh
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Most of my memo is also in spanish but I use English and other languages all the time, I also use Speffz (so I have Q K W and X to deal with). For C and K i do the same as mafergut, for Q I use Q or "Cu" (we pronounce the letter Q and cu the same way in spanish, like coo) QE is Que, QN is quien but QP is Coupe (just saying the letters out loud gives you that one in spanish) but also QL is culo, QB is Cube and QT is cute.
For X I use Ch sound a lot and for W I wrote the complete list the other day in the spanish forums (Rubikaz).
Good luck to everyone competing tomorrow, congrats to Feliks Zemdegs for his future WR on 7x7 tomorrow
For X I use Ch sound a lot and for W I wrote the complete list the other day in the spanish forums (Rubikaz).
Good luck to everyone competing tomorrow, congrats to Feliks Zemdegs for his future WR on 7x7 tomorrow
muchacho
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With that I may be able to complete the Q list :tu
newtonbase
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I use DeeDub's audio system for edges. C is Ch, H is Ing (if at the end of a word), Q is Th, and X is Sh. This stops all the crossover sounds between C, K and Q (and X at the end of a word) and makes finding words for Q and H easier. I know he later advanced his system as K isn't needed in edges but I was already set in my ways. He has a thread on it that I would link to if I wasn't holding a sleeping child.
Lid
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Some practice b4 champs next month:
16.748, (14.785), (23.094), 16.400, 14.991, 17.616, 18.529, 19.891, 17.420, 17.674, 15.634, 14.953 = 16.986
Last year I was the oldest that went to the semis by 10 years or so...
16.748, (14.785), (23.094), 16.400, 14.991, 17.616, 18.529, 19.891, 17.420, 17.674, 15.634, 14.953 = 16.986
Last year I was the oldest that went to the semis by 10 years or so...
Average of 12: 16.986
1. 16.748 D2 L2 F2 R2 F' U2 L2 F' R2 F' D2 L' U L' F' R' D F2 D2 U' B2
2. (14.785) R' B2 R' D2 F2 R U2 L U2 F2 R' D' B U2 L2 B U F R D F'
3. (23.094) U R2 D' L2 D' B2 U' R2 D' F2 U F' U' B R2 D2 F' L U' B' F
4. 16.400 F2 D2 R2 F2 R2 U2 F U2 B F L2 D' R' B2 D' F R B2 L2 U' B
5. 14.991 D' F2 U' R2 F2 D L2 U L2 U' R2 B R B' R' D2 U B' L' U2
6. 17.616 U R2 B2 D2 L2 D2 F2 U' B2 U F L' B F2 L' D L2 F R' F2
7. 18.529 U L2 R2 U R2 B2 L2 F2 R2 D U' R F2 R2 D' B R2 F2 L B2
8. 19.891 U' D F2 R' L' F' R2 D B U2 L D2 F2 B2 L B2 R' F2 U2 B2
9. 17.420 U' F' L B' D2 R D L U' R D2 B R2 L2 B2 R2 F R2 U2 B' L2
10. 17.674 B2 F2 U B2 F2 D' R2 D' R2 F2 D2 L F D' B2 R F' L' B' D' L'
11. 15.634 F R2 F D' R' D2 F2 L B' R' U L2 U' L2 D' B2 L2 U' L2 U B2
12. 14.953 D2 B2 U2 L2 F2 L2 U' F2 U2 F' D' F L F' U2 F2 L B2 D
1. 16.748 D2 L2 F2 R2 F' U2 L2 F' R2 F' D2 L' U L' F' R' D F2 D2 U' B2
2. (14.785) R' B2 R' D2 F2 R U2 L U2 F2 R' D' B U2 L2 B U F R D F'
3. (23.094) U R2 D' L2 D' B2 U' R2 D' F2 U F' U' B R2 D2 F' L U' B' F
4. 16.400 F2 D2 R2 F2 R2 U2 F U2 B F L2 D' R' B2 D' F R B2 L2 U' B
5. 14.991 D' F2 U' R2 F2 D L2 U L2 U' R2 B R B' R' D2 U B' L' U2
6. 17.616 U R2 B2 D2 L2 D2 F2 U' B2 U F L' B F2 L' D L2 F R' F2
7. 18.529 U L2 R2 U R2 B2 L2 F2 R2 D U' R F2 R2 D' B R2 F2 L B2
8. 19.891 U' D F2 R' L' F' R2 D B U2 L D2 F2 B2 L B2 R' F2 U2 B2
9. 17.420 U' F' L B' D2 R D L U' R D2 B R2 L2 B2 R2 F R2 U2 B' L2
10. 17.674 B2 F2 U B2 F2 D' R2 D' R2 F2 D2 L F D' B2 R F' L' B' D' L'
11. 15.634 F R2 F D' R' D2 F2 L B' R' U L2 U' L2 D' B2 L2 U' L2 U B2
12. 14.953 D2 B2 U2 L2 F2 L2 U' F2 U2 F' D' F L F' U2 F2 L B2 D
muchacho
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Thanks. Now I'm trying to fill the lists for the worst letters, hope I don't have to use more tricks.
Jason Green
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Nice session!
newtonbase
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I haven't got a list myself as I find the audio pairs system is fairly intuitive but there are some dodgy ones like thrudge and shudge.
mark49152
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How about NQMH... would be "nush-muth". I'd have trouble with the normal English H and Q there.
I haven't come across that but it sounds like exactly what I do except for different assignments of letters to sounds. If you find the link, please post!
muchacho
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Is that a normal average? Fastest man on this thread?
muchacho
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newtonbase
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Yes. That's the one.
I tend to try some sort of visual rooms method on corners but it takes me ages to get it down. Then I memo audio pairs for edges and solve the edges straight away. I'm thinking I could go audio for it all with a bit more practice and once I've picked Mark's brain for his comms I'll be easily sub 3.
JanW
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Learned edge commutators today. They're a bit more straight forward than corners, mainly because each edge piece only has two faces. Also helps that the U-perm alone can handle a lot of the cases that come up. My main problem is that I'm not at all used to the regular M move, haven't used it in algs before. M' and M2 are easy to flick towards me with left hand fingers, but I can't get the other direction to work. Maybe cube is too tight.. Any tips for how to fingertrick the M move?
I did my first few (sighted) full cube solves with commutators alone. I was happy to find that my parity plan worked very well, now I only need to learn my two parity algs and in theory I'd be ready to try solving the whole cube blind. Won't do that quite yet though, still need to get more familiar with these edge comms.
I'm not sure yet how to deal with twisted corners. So far I've solved twisted corners last by bringing them next to the buffer, then do the alg for solving headlights or chameleon without affecting EP. I happened to know those algs from my regular LL routine. If there are several twisted corners, then do the same for each of them and in the end the buffer will also end up correctly oriented. But this can get a bit confusing with all the cube rotations if there are many corners to twist. Any other good ways to deal with badly oriented corners?
I did my first few (sighted) full cube solves with commutators alone. I was happy to find that my parity plan worked very well, now I only need to learn my two parity algs and in theory I'd be ready to try solving the whole cube blind. Won't do that quite yet though, still need to get more familiar with these edge comms.
I'm not sure yet how to deal with twisted corners. So far I've solved twisted corners last by bringing them next to the buffer, then do the alg for solving headlights or chameleon without affecting EP. I happened to know those algs from my regular LL routine. If there are several twisted corners, then do the same for each of them and in the end the buffer will also end up correctly oriented. But this can get a bit confusing with all the cube rotations if there are many corners to twist. Any other good ways to deal with badly oriented corners?
Jason Green
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My Gans suffered a little injury. Should I worry about it, think they would send a new cubie? It still feels fine now that I removed the rattling piece.
https://youtu.be/h9nELaYt2bI
https://youtu.be/h9nELaYt2bI
mark49152
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Thanks. Yes it's very similar. I like "ng" for trailing H. I will probably use that as well as "th". I have found it useful to have more than one sound per letter to allow alternative pronunciation where a word doesn't stick. For example if MQNH "mush-nuth" was giving me trouble and coming back as "muth-nush" I could use "mush-neng" instead, but for MHQN I would use "muth-shen" because "meng-shen" is just asking to get the N/H mixed up. Generally it's similar sounds in the same word that mess me up, especially if the word sounds awkward or unnatural. That's why I dropped "ch", as I was always mixing up "ch" and "j". And I made other adaptations to help words flow. When J is mid-quad, I'll sometimes use an "ay" vowel sound, so CJDF would be "kay-duf" not "kudge-duf". X at the beginning is "sk" so XQJC would be "skush-ache". Similarly when W is mid-word or trailing, I use a long "oo" sound.
Having said all that, I still find there's a visual element. Unless I also imagine the word written in front of me during memo, I have trouble recalling correctly. During recall I remember the sound first and the spelling pops up in front of me.
h2f
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What buffer? UF? For corners I think every buffer from top layer is the same - there are always some harder cases when one has to make 2-3 moves setup for 3 cycle or make a strange alg. Top blinders are using UBL (Maskow) or UBR (Jałocha). I think it's personal preference.
For M move I've learned do it from bottom with middle finger of right hand. It was hard to learn but was usefull for Roux. I try to learn it on the left hand now. Maskow does it from the top with left hand.
In this week I was few days off home (patataj) but I was practising OH. I dropped my times to sub-50 in global and 42.41 best ao5. And few sub-30 singles.
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muchacho
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For M I use my pinky to push from FD to DB, it was hard at first but it's ok now. Lightening and breaking in that inner layer might help, and after many M moves your pinky will be capable of doing that move with ease.
But try also DB to BU, it may work for you (it didn't for me), like explained in this video (at 37 seconds):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrzoIXIJAyg
But try also DB to BU, it may work for you (it didn't for me), like explained in this video (at 37 seconds):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrzoIXIJAyg
newtonbase
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