Older cubers discussions

[MarcelP]

Sweet! I think you have a sub 10 right? Do you know where this ranks on your bests?

I have had only a few 10's and two sub 10's. These had OLL/PLL skips. This was a kind of special since I was only lucky on getting the double X cross where I saw just a single X cross. I scare myself with these singles ..LOL

 

[mark49152]

I suggest looking at Hoya for 4x4. It's really just a matter of personal preference but it's simple and intuitive. I also never enjoyed practicing Yau as much as I do Hoya.

I agree with this - Hoya is a little less move efficient but it's ergonomic and so much easier to look ahead and find pieces, so it's easier to get faster with it, in my opinion. Hoya is to Yau what F2L is to blockbuilding.

Not sure if I understand the reasoning here. What are the long term benefits of learning the slower method first? Learning to solve quickly with comms will for sure take a lot of solves, so why delay those solves?

In my view, OP is a good foundation for learning comms. Comms is just about solving two pieces at a time. You solve exactly the same sequences of pieces. So first learn a method that lets you solve the corners one piece at a time, and then you can add comms at your own pace and pick off pairs within the sequence that you recognise. OP doesn't have to slow down your progress on comms at all.

Progress update: smashed my 3BLD PB today. 1:47 - my first sub-2. Ao12 is now sub 2:20... I just hope I can hold my nerves at UKC and not end up with three DNFs like at Cuthbert's

 

[Logiqx]

I saw the X-cross in inspection, but I got lucky and got a double X-cross

Edit: Cube MoYu TangLong, 48 moves in 10.84 secs = 4.4 TPS

Cool.

 

[h2f]

In my view, OP is a good foundation for learning comms. Comms is just about solving two pieces at a time. You solve exactly the same sequences of pieces. So first learn a method that lets you solve the corners one piece at a time, and then you can add comms at your own pace and pick off pairs within the sequence that you recognise. OP doesn't have to slow down your progress on comms at all.

Thats what i agree with and what i meant.

Mark, nice Times.


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[Jason Green]

I agree with this advice. Start with your regular OCLL algs then you only need to learn 3 PBL algs to start using Ortega.

You can soon start learning better algs and I'd suggest knowing 2 algs for each case, minimising AUF and avoiding z2 rotations.

Chris Olson has a page with decent Ortega algs.

Thanks! I watched CrazyBadCuber's Ortega video and it seems pretty straight forward, just figuring at which algs to use.

I agree with this - Hoya is a little less move efficient but it's ergonomic and so much easier to look ahead and find pieces, so it's easier to get faster with it, in my opinion. Hoya is to Yau what F2L is to blockbuilding.

That's a pretty good argument for Hoya to me! I suck at block building (I originally learned Petrus too). I might watch a video on both before I decide. I'll probably be playing with 2x2 more before 4x4.

 

[mark49152]

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Grzegorz, whenever you post from Tapatalk it makes me think of British comedian Keith Lemon... https://youtu.be/IoxgcC9ONnA

 

[newtonbase]

I'm trying to decide how to approach the 3BLD this weekend. My overriding goal for the competition is to get a 3BLD success. There's a 12 min limit for the 3 solves. I average a bit over 4 mins but can get closer to 3 on a nice memo. Do I plan for 2 slow and safe solves or try to give myself 3 chances? Nothing is guaranteed. Maybe I just see how it goes and blast the final solve if necessary. Suggestions?

 

[mark49152]

I'm trying to decide how to approach the 3BLD this weekend. My overriding goal for the competition is to get a 3BLD success. There's a 12 min limit for the 3 solves. I average a bit over 4 mins but can get closer to 3 on a nice memo. Do I plan for 2 slow and safe solves or try to give myself 3 chances? Nothing is guaranteed. Maybe I just see how it goes and blast the final solve if necessary. Suggestions?

For what it's worth, I fouled up Cuthbert's because I raced the first two solves, then although I tried to go safe on the third I got nervous and fumbled a Y-perm. Three DNFs. So at UKC, I will take it easy until after the first success.

 

[h2f]

Grzegorz, whenever you post from Tapatalk it makes me think of British comedian Keith Lemon... https://youtu.be/IoxgcC9ONnA

[emoji3] ha ha ha. Maybe i should think about changing it.

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[Jason Green]

[emoji3] ha ha ha. Maybe i should think about changing it.

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I was going to ask what that meant exactly on the signature. I tried to Google it but not very clear research.

 

[muchacho]

I also didn't know what was that about (I just assumed it would probably was "have a nice cubing day and please try bld because it's so fun" in Polish)... please don't change it!

 

[SenorJuan]

My guess is it's the Polski equivalent of " Arriba Arriba Arriba"

 

[muchacho]

Do you speak Spanish, MrJohn?

 

[Logiqx]

Thanks! I watched CrazyBadCuber's Ortega video and it seems pretty straight forward, just figuring at which algs to use..

Here's my cheat sheet in case it is helpful:

http://cubing.mikeg.me.uk/Ortega.pdf

That's a pretty good argument for Hoya to me! I suck at block building (I originally learned Petrus too). I might watch a video on both before I decide. I'll probably be playing with 2x2 more before 4x4.

Mark's advice was just an analogy. He was saying how he finds Hoya easier than Yau in the same way that he finds cross + F2L easier than block building.

Yau does not utilise block building and both methods are forms of reduction. The four cross pieces are solved prior to completion of the centres, leaving just eight edges to be paired before 3x3 stage. Watch videos for both and have a play with both to see if you have a preference.

 

[Isaac Lai]

I was going to ask what that meant exactly on the signature. I tried to Google it but not very clear research.

I asked before and he said it was the sound of a horse galloping in Polish.

 

[mafergut]

Today I was filming a nice average (Ao12 sub 18..) After a few nice solves (some 16's in a row) I thought 'let's not mess that up'.. And then I had a twenty... bleh... then back to 16.. and then...

I saw the X-cross in inspection, but I got lucky and got a double X-cross

Edit: Cube MoYu TangLong, 48 moves in 10.84 secs = 4.4 TPS

Congratulations. VGJ!!! I'm still waiting for my 1st sub-12 (not even dreaming of a sub-11 or sub-10 yet) which almost happened a couple days ago but I locked up a bit and ended up with yet another low 12 I don't have it on cam anyway.

 

[h2f]

I also didn't know what was that about (I just assumed it would probably was "have a nice cubing day and please try bld because it's so fun" in Polish)... please don't change it!

I like it. And i wish it meant so. But as Isaac wrote it is a sound like word which one can use when tries to say that one heard horses. But its a part of wider story. One of forums where im active has changed engine and become visible on tapatalk. When one of users saw a Signature under the post she asked "what the hell is patataj [tapatalk]". And i thought this could be funny Signature because it sounds like tapatalk. And thats all. I hope you are not disapointed.

patataj patataj patataj

 

[muchacho]

It's funny!

 

[mafergut]

Nice!

patataj patataj....

 

[SenorJuan]

@David: No, I don't speak Spanish. My username on here is just a nickname a Latin-American friend (Senor Sebastian) gave me. My only attempts at Spanish sounded more like Comedy Mexican -¡Ándale! ¡Ándale! ¡Arriba! ¡Arriba! ¡Epa! ¡Epa! ¡Epa! Yeehaw!

I'm slightly disappointed to find out the signature means something akin to "clipitty clop".