New Moyu 5x5 - MoYu TangChuang!

[NeilH]

150 Chinese Yuan equals 23.49 US Dollars.

From Google

 

[Myachii]

150 Chinese Yuan equals 23.49 US Dollars.

From Google

...and he said the price in USD will be double apparently.

And 60$ for a 3x3? It's like they're literally trying to push customers away lol.

I sincerely hope this is not correct information.

 

[Ordway Persyn]

ehh Im more excited for the Gao puzzles now, and the Huasu.

 

[mark49152]

...and he said the price in USD will be double apparently.

How will they enforce that? And if they try to impose high prices on western stores, just order from China. Moyu TimeRound on zcube.hk is 150 CNY or $23.36. I very much doubt the store will attempt two-tier pricing depending on whether you're ordering from abroad, even if that's legal.

 

[hamfaceman]

Why do you think so many people still use their ol' DaYan 2x2s?

Because MoYu hasn't made a better one. That's exactly why another one should be made. It'd probably be called the WeiPo or AoPo. I'd buy it.

 

[TraciAG]

How will they enforce that?

I also like the question, "How will they justify that"?

 

[kliang9299]

I've got a experimental version in my hand.

Can you post pictures or try to describe the mechanism? Is there really anything that would justify that price point?

 

[dboeren]

Maybe it's got little motors inside that accelerate your TPS? That might do it.

 

[Jiayu]

Can you post pictures or try to describe the mechanism? Is there really anything that would justify that price point?

Spoiler: Images

Sorry, I can't show u the inside...
The corner cutting is yet not good as Aolong, MoYu said they would fix this before the final vision.
But it is still a very fast cube , and the final vision will be much better.

Still, not worth the price.

There is not any perfect stickers for Tanglomg, So I used Meiying's, and it looks bad.

How will they enforce that? And if they try to impose high prices on western stores, just order from China. Moyu TimeRound on zcube.hk is 150 CNY or $23.36. I very much doubt the store will attempt two-tier pricing depending on whether you're ordering from abroad, even if that's legal.

I didn't say they enforce this.
It's just when I went to Cubicle.us, I found the puzzles there are usually twice the price as these on sale in China.
So I guess it's some sort of pattern, and TangLong will be the same.

 

[mark49152]

I didn't say they enforce this.
It's just when I went to Cubicle.us, I found the puzzles there are usually twice the price as these on sale in China.
So I guess it's some sort of pattern, and TangLong will be the same.

Thanks for clarifying. I think some here took your remark to mean there would be a much higher price difference than usual. It's normal that western stores are a bit more expensive. Based on your estimate of 150-200 CNY we can expect it to be around 24-32 USD, so more expensive than the GAN 356 but nowhere near double.

That would make sense, as I guess the marketing folks at Moyu saw how the GAN 356 successfully tested whether the market would stand a $24 price for a premium cube, and concluded they were leaving money on the table. It would be a pretty big gamble to jump from there to a $60 price point though

 

[Pitzu]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_Long

 

[Please Dont Ask]

I have this thing called a job.
With the money they pay me to do this job I can choose to spend it on what I want.
I really want a 5x5 which is very similar to the HuaChuang but with better outer layers.
This cube may be better than my current options and if it's not then I will more than likely buy the next 5x5 released on the market.

If you can't afford to buy every cube which is released then don't.
Try other people's at comps and make your purchasing decisions based on your opinions instead of reviews.

I'm sick of seeing people complaining about new cubes being released.

Can anyone honestly say they can't imagine a better 5x5 being released?
Even once a truly incredible 5x5 is released companies will continue to release new puzzles and it's likely personal preference will come into play to decide what the best cube for you is.


As for "Why aren't they releasing X?".
MoYu is owned by YJ. A large toy company which makes money. It seems likely that they are putting funding into exactly what they think will make them the most profit.

Maybe send messages directly to YJ and wait patiently by your PC for a response from them which will never come.
They don't want or need your input on this point. They are well aware of the WCA site where they have access to the numbers they need to make financial decisions.


To summarise I'm looking forward to this puzzle and hope it becomes my main instead of collecting dust.

/rant

I completely agree with you, But there is one more thing
Everybody wants the best cube (I mean THE BEST) But for the cheapest price.

 

[AlexMaass]

Moyu recently have a new talented designer and a new sub-brand (called GuoGuan) , he is designing several puzzles now as he told me....

Gu-oo Gu-an?

 

[Myachii]

Gu-oo Gu-an?

He should redesign the Guanlong and call it the Guo's Guan-long

 

[Jiayu]

Gu-oo Gu-an?

He should redesign the Guanlong and call it the Guo's Guan-long

Actually this sub-brand was going to be DouGao' design ( just like Cong's design)
But it was already registered by other people, so Gao had to choose a trademark(brand) which YJ registered a long time ago and hasn't been in use.
Although they both have a "Guan" in their name, Guoguan has nothing to do with GuanLong or the Guan series（the cheapest puzzle series of YJ）.

PS: DouGao is some sort food in China, so it's not strange that someone has registered it.

 

[TraciAG]

I have this thing called a job.
With the money they pay me to do this job I can choose to spend it on what I want.

If you can't afford to buy every cube which is released then don't.
Try other people's at comps and make your purchasing decisions based on your opinions instead of reviews.

I'm sick of seeing people complaining about new cubes being released.

I respect your opinion but you have to think of other demographics...there are people with low income. I have friends who live in a trailer and share the bed, they can't work or they have to quit school. No money for cubes, barely any for food!

They can't afford cubes like you can, and there are no comps in this area. (again, not everyone is fortunate enough to be in the position to say a comment like yours!)

Like I said you're entitled to your opinion but there are factors other than being picky for a lot of people

 

[Tyler Comfy Hat]

I have friends who live in a trailer and share the bed, they can't work or they have to quit school. No money for cubes, barely any for food!

My commiserations to your friends.
But if they can barely afford food or a proper place to live, then they have much, much bigger things to worry about/ focus their finances on than getting the latest Moyu speed cube. To put it frankly.
When you boil it down enough, Cubes are just material possesions. Essentials should come first. Nobody should use their rent money to buy a new Iphone being released.

To emphasize his point:

If you can't afford to buy every cube which is released then don't.

 

[TraciAG]

My commiserations to your friends.
But if they can barely afford food or a proper place to live, then they have much, much bigger things to worry about/ focus their finances on than getting the latest Moyu speed cube. To put it frankly.
When you boil it down enough, Cubes are just material possesions. Essentials should come first. Nobody should use their rent money to buy a new Iphone being released.

Kids are still kids...(We are off-topic, but what even is this thread anyway?). They're not paying bills, they're 11 and 12, they sell at flea market to buy food and toys.

An 11 and 12 year doesn't have any say in why they live in a trailer home, I don't really know what we're talking about anymore but a $1k iPhone is a lot different than a cube for a child (remember, I was talking about the kids not adults who have jobs and income).

Okay..I think I'm done with this thread, it's a bit too serious for me personally. I was trying to say that I think in general, it's good to think about different factors that apply to different people in everyday life.

 

[DTCuber]

Are the HuaSu and TangSu going to be v3 and v4 or two different designs created independently of each other? Also, what are the expected prices of the 4x4s?

Thanks!

-DTCuber

Hypehypehype for the GuoGuan puzzles! Can't wait to get into clock! Any news about when these puzzles are coming out?

 

[Coolster01]

Oh Come on guys, it's still a good thing !
AND for these who want a SQ1 or a clock...
Moyu recently have a new talented designer and a new sub-brand (called GuoGuan) , he is designing several puzzles now as he told me....
the releasing order will probably be like this: 3x3(Gao's 3 maybe) , 4x4(Gao's 4) , Megaminx , SQ1 , Clock...
BTW, Tanglong will be released in September，I've got a experimental version in my hand.
And yeah, it will be SUPER EXPENSIVE!


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Clock? :O Rubik's has been (arguably) the best forever. This is gonna be interesting.