• Welcome to the Speedsolving.com, home of the web's largest puzzle community!
    You are currently viewing our forum as a guest which gives you limited access to join discussions and access our other features.

    Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community of 40,000+ people from around the world today!

    If you are already a member, simply login to hide this message and begin participating in the community!

[WR] Feliks Zemdegs 3x3 OH single 6.88

StachuK1992

statue
Joined
Jul 24, 2008
Messages
3,812
Location
West Chester, PA
WCA
2008KORI02
YouTube
Visit Channel
You can care, but talking about punishing some guy trying to help out by scrambling a bunch of cubes for an event to happen is silly.
Take a step back. Take some perspective.

I've thrown years of my life at this whole cubing thing, but I take it with perspective.
Don't take life so seriously. The trees may look strict and stable at the base, but where they can, they dance.
 

hubingjushi

Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2013
Messages
148
Location
Anhui, China
WCA
2013ZHAN29
YouTube
Visit Channel
This was because the 1.89 at your competition did not follow regulations. The solve was completed in under 7 moves. For skewb, the scramble is required to be a minimum of seven moves for an optimal solution. For 3x3 solving, the solution has to be 13 moves or greater for an optimal solution.

This is why Akash Rupela's solve was allowed for example. But this one you linked, and Nathan Soria's one were not.

Sorry to say but he solve it RIGHT in 7 moves.
 

Barack Obama

Banned
Joined
Nov 16, 2014
Messages
2
Location
Washington D.C.
WCA
2009OBAM01
Secret service intelligence has informed that the optimal solution to the scramble was 1 move. However, I'm afraid I'm going to have to veto anyone that says this world record isn't legitimate.
 

Laura O

Member
Joined
Aug 27, 2009
Messages
289
Location
Germany
WCA
2009OHRN01
YouTube
Visit Channel
This can be compared to solving the cube in the competition. What if everyone would stop competing because they might get +2's or DNF's? We compete with the risk of getting these penalties if the rules aren't followed, scrambling shouldn't be any different from that

You compare apples to oranges.
When you get a +2 or a DNF that's just one individual result. It's just about this single attempt.
When you are a scrambler there are no results that could be changed. And changing any other results to DNF because you made a mistake when scrambling is like failing an exam because you smoked in the schoolyard.

I definitely agree when we talk about intentional misscrambles or scramblers who just don't care. Competitors should be banned for an amount of time (like it was done here). But I don't like how people are demanding a general punishment for misscrambles.
 

Ninja Storm

Member
Joined
Oct 7, 2011
Messages
1,754
Location
Maryland
WCA
2012ELLI01
YouTube
Visit Channel
First off, congrats to Feliks for getting this and totally overshadowing my own sub10! haha

Second, I think that because the cube was in a legal position, with no intention by the scrambler to give Feliks an easier scramble, that this record should hold. In similar situations, the solve had been ruled legitimate.

With the discussion about needing to check scrambles, I think that people need to consider the fact that human error is real, and that people aren't intentionally try to make mistakes. While experienced cubes may be able to scramble and check better than someone who isn't experienced with competitions, often the best are competing in further rounds, which leaves newer cubers in charge of scrambling for a round.

I think that an official scramble checker would help a lot, where it would simply be one person's job to check each scramble, and not have to worry about scrambling it. It would introduce some redundancy into the system, but would also help catch a lot of errors.
 

Jimmy Liu

Member
Joined
Jul 7, 2014
Messages
149
WCA
2011LIUR02
I think the result is legit, but I suggest faz give up the record.
There was also sq1 WR with wrong scramble, but he thought it was too fast at that time, so he give up the record.
6.88 is too much improvement from 8.27, so it cause the growth of OH event hugely
 

Username

Member
Joined
Dec 15, 2012
Messages
3,418
Location
Finland
WCA
2013JOKI01
YouTube
Visit Channel
I think the result is legit, but I suggest faz give up the record.
There was also sq1 WR with wrong scramble, but he thought it was too fast at that time, so he give up the record.
6.88 is too much improvement from 8.27, so it cause the growth of OH event hugely

This also something that I haven't seen discussed yet. I can see where your thoughts are coming from, but would you do it yourself? I understand that Feliks has a big chance of breaking it soon enough if he decides to give it up, but I'm not sure it's the right thing to do, especially if the correct scramble would've had an easy X-cross too (like I think I read earlier in this thread)
 

Eva

Member
Joined
Aug 12, 2013
Messages
62
Location
The Netherlands
I'm just curious, how long would it take for the WCA to draw a conclusion.
I know this can't be said precisely, but is it like a few days, a week or even more.
 
Top