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The 15 puzzle, over the last year, has gained some popularity, whether it is physical or virtual. And in the meantime, we ask "what event comes next?"
The 15 puzzle would be a great idea of a new event to add. Problem is, we don't really know WHAT it fits?
According to Lucas Garron, the criteria for adding a new event to the WCA would be:
I am going to go through this criteria and put out some of my points on why this should be considered as an event.
Community Interest
Since around September 2013, the 15 puzzle community, via Ben's SlidySim program and physical puzzles, have grown dramatically since they first started to resurface on the forum, then started to spread to those outside of the forum. I still find myself speaking to newsliders on tips and tricks on how to improve.
Practicality
Running 15 puzzle can be pretty simple as a matter of fact:
SCRAMBLING:
When scrambling, a set "state" should be set out on the program to be "solved", considering the cube to be scrambled.
PENALTIES:
Some puzzles are always different than others, and they tend to have their own flaws. One major flaw, is misalignment upon completing the attempt. Upon doing a simple 3-cycle then dropping the puzzle on the mat 50 times, there were at least 30 misaligned states of what was past the "halfway" mark, on most pieces from the bottom or right layer. Penalties should only be DNF if the solved state was two individual moves from the intended finish. So for example, a DNF would be as follows:
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8
9 10 15 11
13 14 0 12
While a solved state would be:
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12
0 13 14 15
The difference from an individual move from a group move would be:
Individual R U L D
Group, 2R 2U 2L 2D
Consistency
The 15 puzzle is obviously consistent with the theme, spirit, goal, and mission of the WCA.
--It is stated that the mission does govern all puzzles labeled "twisty", but the Rubik's Clock doesn't fit that criteria. [With the exception of it being labeled as a Rubik's Puzzle.]
Fun to watch
Considering the count on some of Ben's videos, they look really fun to watch and it is pretty cool to see most of the solutions.
Brand of puzzles
There are two types of 15 puzzles, plastic, and metal, and both are really good after some wear in time.
Noting that when Skewb became an event, most people used a LanLan brand skewb, mainly because a good Skewb was not out yet. Would we be able to wait for a good 15 puzzle to come out after it has been added as an event?
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I do agree with this, however, it takes away the "meaning" of the WCA. Most competitors only come for 3x3 as their main event, and, although 15 puzzle is something I would like to see added, I would not like to see it kill 3x3 as the main event for every new competitor. [Unless they do not really know 15 puzzle is in there yet.]
The 15 puzzle, over the last year, has gained some popularity, whether it is physical or virtual. And in the meantime, we ask "what event comes next?"
The 15 puzzle would be a great idea of a new event to add. Problem is, we don't really know WHAT it fits?
According to Lucas Garron, the criteria for adding a new event to the WCA would be:
Lucas Garron said:
I am going to go through this criteria and put out some of my points on why this should be considered as an event.
Community Interest
Since around September 2013, the 15 puzzle community, via Ben's SlidySim program and physical puzzles, have grown dramatically since they first started to resurface on the forum, then started to spread to those outside of the forum. I still find myself speaking to newsliders on tips and tricks on how to improve.
Practicality
Running 15 puzzle can be pretty simple as a matter of fact:
SCRAMBLING:
When scrambling, a set "state" should be set out on the program to be "solved", considering the cube to be scrambled.
PENALTIES:
Some puzzles are always different than others, and they tend to have their own flaws. One major flaw, is misalignment upon completing the attempt. Upon doing a simple 3-cycle then dropping the puzzle on the mat 50 times, there were at least 30 misaligned states of what was past the "halfway" mark, on most pieces from the bottom or right layer. Penalties should only be DNF if the solved state was two individual moves from the intended finish. So for example, a DNF would be as follows:
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8
9 10 15 11
13 14 0 12
While a solved state would be:
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12
0 13 14 15
The difference from an individual move from a group move would be:
Individual R U L D
Group, 2R 2U 2L 2D
Consistency
The 15 puzzle is obviously consistent with the theme, spirit, goal, and mission of the WCA.
--It is stated that the mission does govern all puzzles labeled "twisty", but the Rubik's Clock doesn't fit that criteria. [With the exception of it being labeled as a Rubik's Puzzle.]
Fun to watch
Considering the count on some of Ben's videos, they look really fun to watch and it is pretty cool to see most of the solutions.
Brand of puzzles
There are two types of 15 puzzles, plastic, and metal, and both are really good after some wear in time.
Noting that when Skewb became an event, most people used a LanLan brand skewb, mainly because a good Skewb was not out yet. Would we be able to wait for a good 15 puzzle to come out after it has been added as an event?
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Thanks, please leave comments on how this should be conducted and whether this should be added as an event or not.
================================================
User quotes: {Will update periodically}
Brandon Mikel/Mikel said:
I do agree with this, however, it takes away the "meaning" of the WCA. Most competitors only come for 3x3 as their main event, and, although 15 puzzle is something I would like to see added, I would not like to see it kill 3x3 as the main event for every new competitor. [Unless they do not really know 15 puzzle is in there yet.]
Feliks Zemdegs/fazrulz said:
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