3BLD memorization training method?

[Repsela]

Hi I'm new in this forum. I like blind cubing and I'd like to ask you what is a good method for memorization training for 3 BLD. At the moment my memorization time is about 30 seconds. My target is to reach at 20 second. Thank you

 

[Zeyofa]

30 seconds? Wow, I need to improve o.o
anyway, one "training memorisation" method would simply be to make the cube BLD over and over again...

I know you are like: "Well this isn't really helping me!"

But the thing is, you can't really practice *only* the memorisation. Unless you start to learn some Pi digits x)
In fact, you could, but to verify if you well memorized the cube, you'd need to do it. So it would lead to make the cube blindfolded.

Or.. you could memorize and then do the cube with your eyes open, with the blindfolded method.
That's your choice!

Hope this help!

 

[Tao Yu]

To get 20 second memo times, doing loads of BLD solves should be enough. Just make sure you use letter pairs. Audio loops will also help.

I heard that doing memory sports can help, although I never did do any to get sub 20.

 

[Ollie]

Memorize for 20s.
After 20s, put on your blindfold.
Whether you have finished or not, execute what you have memorized.
Repeat until your memory adjusts.

Then repeat for 15s.

 

[ollicubes]

Memorize for 20s.
After 20s, put on your blindfold.
Whether you have finished or not, execute what you have memorized.
Repeat until your memory adjusts.

Then repeat for 15s.

Wow! Thanks a lot Ollie. This sounds very good idea to practise memo.

Trying to get every solve Sub-1 average for Euro

 

[Repsela]

Memorize for 20s.
After 20s, put on your blindfold.
Whether you have finished or not, execute what you have memorized.
Repeat until your memory adjusts.

Then repeat for 15s.

Thanks I'll try it. It's very interesting.

 

[cmhardw]

Memorize for 20s.
After 20s, put on your blindfold.
Whether you have finished or not, execute what you have memorized.
Repeat until your memory adjusts.

Then repeat for 15s.

Wow, I've never tried this. I will give this a shot next time I practice, thanks!

 

[mkarthick]

Memorize for 20s.
After 20s, put on your blindfold.
Whether you have finished or not, execute what you have memorized.
Repeat until your memory adjusts.

Then repeat for 15s.

Wow, this sounds like a great idea. Is this what you did?

 

[Ollie]

Wow, this sounds like a great idea. Is this what you did?

Yeah, Joey taught me this a long time ago to get me from 20s to sub-15s and it did, using it again to get to sub-10 with good results

 

[abunickabhi]

excellent insight yo.also will try only sub-10 tracing without memo

 

[Prabal Baishya]

how do pro BLDiers memo under 10 secs?? What makes their memo so fast?

 

[h2f]

how do pro BLDiers memo under 10 secs?? What makes their memo so fast?

My fastest memo's are around 12s. As far as I know there's no special tricks and I do the same what I did when I memorized the cube in 2-3 minutes or in 1 but faster.

 

[Prabal Baishya]

so h2f, does faster memo comes with time and practise??

 

[h2f]

so h2f, does faster memo comes with time and practise??

Generally yes. I think there are some kind of things you can do to make your memo better like PAO list, words list but it will come naturally when you will develop your blind skills.

 

[Fábio De'Rose]

how do pro BLDiers memo under 10 secs?? What makes their memo so fast?

Speaking as someone who went from 4min to sub 20 seconds (with some sub 10 singles, PB is around 8), some things that helped me, in very short:

4min down to 1min average: Get good letter pairs. Develop a solid list, with solid images. Things that are visual, big, loud, funny, whatever. Learn some PAO as early as possible.

1min down to to 40s: Learn audio memorization, especially for Edges. Add rhythm and pitch to the sounds.

40s to 20s: Learn full audio. Rush a lot, DNF a lot. Improve your execution, make it automatic as much as you possibly can.

20s and below: Full audio, rush and review in a loop as you execute.

 

[Prabal Baishya]

Speaking as someone who went from 4min to sub 20 seconds (with some sub 10 singles, PB is around 8), some things that helped me, in very short:

4min down to 1min average: Get good letter pairs. Develop a solid list, with solid images. Things that are visual, big, loud, funny, whatever. Learn some PAO as early as possible.

1min down to to 40s: Learn audio memorization, especially for Edges. Add rhythm and pitch to the sounds.

40s to 20s: Learn full audio. Rush a lot, DNF a lot. Improve your execution, make it automatic as much as you possibly can.

20s and below: Full audio, rush and review in a loop as you execute.

Thanks Fabio!!
But what did you meant by learning full audio?? My current memo time is around 20-23(PB is around 16-18 secs) secs by audioing edges and sentences/ images for corners and I average around 1:15 with M2/Old Pochmann(PB is 56 secs)

Lastly, does learning a faster execution method can also improve my average memo time.

 

[Fábio De'Rose]

Thanks Fabio!!
But what did you meant by learning full audio?? My current memo time is around 20-23(PB is around 16-18 secs) secs by audioing edges and sentences/ images for corners and I average around 1:15 with M2/Old Pochmann(PB is 56 secs)

Lastly, does learning a faster execution method can also improve my average memo time.

I meant using audio for both edges and corners

And yeah, faster execution means you don't need to retain the memo for as long as you did before, which in turn means you're able to rush more and take more risks - to get great rewards.

 

[Prabal Baishya]

I meant using audio for both edges and corners

And yeah, faster execution means you don't need to retain the memo for as long as you did before, which in turn means you're able to rush more and take more risks - to get great rewards.

Audio or echoic memory is very short term and do you think its ideal to memorize the cube solely with audio??

 

[Mike Hughey]

Audio or echoic memory is very short term and do you think its ideal to memorize the cube solely with audio??

It seems like, at world record speeds today, it's hard to imagine that any other option is even possible to achieve top results. Do any of the current sub-20 solvers use something other than audio for their memo? If so, how do they do it?

I find this very discouraging because I have trouble even retaining edges in audio memory - it feels like it's almost too much for me. But that's probably because it takes me too long to build the memory to begin with - perhaps it's just practice that's needed.

 

[newtonbase]

I find this very discouraging because I have trouble even retaining edges in audio memory - it feels like it's almost too much for me. But that's probably because it takes me too long to build the memory to begin with - perhaps it's just practice that's needed.

It is practice that's needed but you might benefit from breaking the process down. Tracing pieces is very helpful and you can do lots of it by doing small hand scrambles between attempts and ignoring orientation. Maybe even take the centre stickers off. You can also practice making the words from lists of letter pairs http://bestsiteever.ru/memotest/